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Against the backdrop of
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the coronavirus crisis and campaign 2020,
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we'll have a no-holds-barred,
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one-on-one progressive.
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Cenk Uygur is the guest
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on this edition of "Politicking".
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(rock intro music)
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Welcome to "Politicking",
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I'm Larry King.
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I guess you could call him a progressive's progressive.
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He's an outspoken supporter of Bernie Sanders.
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And the founder of The Young Turks.
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He's Cenk Uygur,
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and he joins us from his studio in Los Angeles.
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What's life been like for you during this?
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Uh well, it's difficult for everybody.
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So I actually had a tooth infection,
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a pretty bad one.
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And we wanted to get a test just in case.
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And, because of Donald Trump's ineptitude,
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there are no tests.
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So everybody's vying for,
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do you have enough symptoms to get a test.
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Just, this whole thing is filled with madness.
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And I think the federal government's reaction
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has been abysmal.
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And Trump's ineptitude here,
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probably quite literally,
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is costing us lives.
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How is Trump to know how many tests he'd need?
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Is that something the President should have known?
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Yes, absolutely!
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So, there's a couple of different factors here.
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First of all, there's the report out a couple days ago
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saying that Trump refused to order more tests
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because he thought,
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if people find out how many people are sick,
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the stock market will go down more,
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and it might cost him reelection.
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That level of selfishness is unreal.
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Unacceptable.
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Look, if we hadn't already impeached him,
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if the Democrats weren't completely incompetent,
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that's impeachable right there.
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I mean, god!
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He endangers people's lives willy-nilly
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for his own personal benefit.
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Second of all,
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other countries have plenty of tests.
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So we're told all the time
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about our wonderful private healthcare system we have.
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Really? Where is it?!
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Where are the test kits?!
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I thought private healthcare solved everything.
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It hasn't solved a damn thing!
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Now, Larry, in the midst of all this panic,
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what do people turn to?
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They turn to the government!
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What happened Republicans,
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I thought the government couldn't solve anything?!
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It turns out when people really need help,
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they're all socialists.
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And if we had Medicare for all,
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right now nobody would be panicking.
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Because everyone would know,
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not only are their tests covered,
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their treatment is covered,
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everything is covered.
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Instead we have pandemonium
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because of the insane system that we have.
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And the total incompetent leadership of Trump.
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But other countries with total Medicare for all
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are also having their problems, aren't they?
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Yeah, so the question is,
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how prepared are you?
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And how much peace-of-mind do people have
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that they're gonna get treated.
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And most importantly, are they gonna get treated.
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So, in a place like Italy,
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where there's a very large outbreak.
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First of all the government acted quicker.
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Second of all, we might have an outbreak
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way larger than Italy's,
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we just don't know
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because our idiot government can't test anyone.
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and I see it with the Republicans online,
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they're like, "Oh, we have less cases!"
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No you idiots!
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We have less testing!
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We might have a lot more cases.
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But any country can get swamped.
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The question is, who's handling the bureaucracy?
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So they say, well in Italy the hospitals are overwhelmed.
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Here the hospitals might be overwhelmed soon.
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But here, unlike Italy, you don't know if you're covered.
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Now, because we've forced to Republicans to say, "Fine!
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"Normally we would bankrupt you just to test you,
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"but okay fine, we'll do one good thing in government.
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"We'll provide free testing."
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But it is not free treatment!
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So in Italy you are going to get treated no matter what.
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In countries like Austria,
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where they've done an outstanding job,
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Singapore where they've done an outstanding job,
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where they have single-payer,
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everyone is covered,
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and the government has handled it.
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Here, the government doesn't handle anything.
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So you're very likely to get bankrupted
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if you actually have coronavirus.
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And if you don't have insurance,
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we might even let you die.
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That's the insane system that we have.
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Do you like the bill that the House passed
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and the Senate is approving today
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and the President will sign?
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No, it's abysmal!
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Everyone involved should be forever lambasted,
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embarrassed over it.
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It's exactly what's wrong with our system.
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It's not just the country that's sick,
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it's our government that's sick.
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So, Trump apparently demanded,
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the New York Times is reporting this right now,
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Trump demanded that large corporations
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be exempted from paid sick leave.
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large corporations are the ones that have the best ability
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to be able to handle paid sick leave.
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But they're his contributors, they're his donors.
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So in his infinite corruption,
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he decided that he would exempt any employer
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with above 500 employees.
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They also exempted, understandably,
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employers with less than 50 employees,
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so like everything else, it's the middle class
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and the mid-sized businesses that get crunched.
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It only covers 20% of Americans.
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It tells the other 80% of Americans,
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"America's barbaric!
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"We will not even give you paid sick leave
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"even if you have the coronavirus."
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And by the way, it's not just Trump's fault.
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Nancy Pelosi, as usual, covered for him.
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She didn't point out what an atrocious bill it is.
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Instead she happily signed it,
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did marketing for it,
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and helped Trump to pass a BS bill
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that doesn't actually help anyone.
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It's Nancy Pelosi and Democratic leadership 101.
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They never ever deliver for the voters,
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all they ever deliver is for their donors.
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They have the same donors as Trump,
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this whole government is sick.
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How big an issue will this be in November?
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Gigantic!
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So look,
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the primaries look like they're almost over.
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If we had Bernie Sanders as the nominee,
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the Democratic nominee,
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he would win on this alone.
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It's so easy to say,
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"Hey, under Medicare for all,
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"not only are you covered for coronavirus,
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"you're covered for every ailment.
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"And like the rest of the developed world,
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"we will no longer let you die
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"if you can't afford treatment."
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That's the bare minimum we could do as a government.
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The government doesn't have private fire insurance
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because we're not gonna let you burn to death
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if your house is on fire.
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We have a public fire department.
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The government doesn't have private police
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where we let you get shot to death if there's an intruder,
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because you didn't have private police insurance.
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No, we have public police to protect our lives.
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The same with health insurance.
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We should have public health insurance,
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and especially in the middle of this fiasco,
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Donald Trump would be incredibly easy to defeat.
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Instead it looks like we're probably gonna pick Joe Biden,
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who is also against Medicare for all.
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Leave it to the Democrats to find a way
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to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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So look, Trump is so incompetent and so unpopular,
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I think almost anyone can beat him.
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But I'm worried about Biden.
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So from your standpoint,
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and I know as a strong Sanders supporter
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you'll be disappointed if he's not the nominee,
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but do you expect the party to get together behind Biden?
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And will the Sanders people come out and vote for him?
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Yeah, of course.
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So look, some Sanders folks
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are deeply deeply frustrated with the party.
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the Democratic leadership despises us.
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So it's hard for me to rally the troops
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when at every opportunity Democratic leadership
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punches progressives in the face.
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Like Nancy Pelosi says,
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there's no way she's gonna do Medicare for all,
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there's no way she's gonna do Green New Deal,
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there's no way she's gonna end the corruption,
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she's not gonna give any fig leaf to us.
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And so it's hard to get people excited.
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And it's not my job to get people excited,
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it's Joe Biden's job to get people excited.
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I'm not gonna do propaganda for him
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like the rest of the media does.
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Now having said that,
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will I vote for the Democratic nominee over Donald Trump?
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Of course, that's a no-brainer!
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Trump is an idiot, incompetent monster.
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You put up a shoe against him
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and I'd vote for the shoe.
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And I think any rational person would.
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But I'd like to do better than a shoe.
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(laughs) Any surprises in the debate?
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No.
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You know, Joe Biden did a fine job
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representing his point of view.
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We were, I was, worried
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that he was slowing down because of age,
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but he looked fine last night,
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and so that's a relief.
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Because I was scared to death
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that he was just gonna bumble
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just on that alone,
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and lose to Donald Trump.
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But he looked okay last night
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and so that's good.
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In terms of the content,
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well Bernie Sanders is of course right,
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but we have no media to fact check anyone.
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He said Biden offered to cut Social Security
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on numerous times,
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there's no question about that.
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There's videotape of him saying it proudly
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on the floor of the Senate
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and multiple times.
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Joe Biden was so proud of the bankruptcy bill,
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now he claims that he didn't have a part to do with it.
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That's absurd!
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Larry, you and I have been around long enough
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to have been there for the bankruptcy bill.
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Joe Biden was a huge proponent of it
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and he pushed it through.
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He totally lied about that.
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Joe Biden has lied 31 times about his civil rights record.
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we have a giant liar in the Oval Office,
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no one can compete with him on lies.
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But why are we picking someone
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who is known for fabricating things over and over again,
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when Bernie Sanders is arguably
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the most honest man in politics.
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Even if you don't agree with his politics,
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no one would say he's dishonest.
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And we're giving up that opportunity,
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or it looks like we might be soon,
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depending on how the Tuesday primaries go,
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to pick someone that lies,
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but not quite as often as Donald Trump.
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But he did it repeatedly last night
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on almost every issue.
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What if this virus lasts into November?
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Would that delay an election?
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There's no way to bargain upheaval here,
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do you see the possibility
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we will have a virus still spreading in November?
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the virus goes in three month intervals.
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but I don't know that any theory holds anymore,
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given how novel this is.
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Now the Democrats say, "Oh yeah.
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The virus is so bad we're delaying primaries
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in Georgia and Louisiana which are later."
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Okay, so are you gonna delay the primaries
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that are happening this Tuesday?
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When it is the most important
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in terms of people not wanting to show up?
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I mean, Larry, look at how we started this conversation.
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You said in California,
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nobody above the age of 65 can go out.
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Well, how are they gonna vote?!
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But the Democratic Party thinks
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Joe Biden has it almost wrapped up,
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and they just wanna get rid of Bernie Sanders,
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so they're like, "No no no no no no no no no!
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"We're voting, we're voting.
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"Right now, on Tuesday."
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Right?
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But by the way, they might be
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shooting themselves in the foot.
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If no one above the age of 65 can go vote,
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Joe Biden has no chance of winning.
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That's almost all of his voters.
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So like,
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god they're so frustrating!
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It depends in November how bad it is.
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Of course if no one can leave,
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it's very very difficult to vote.
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On the other hand,
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the very last thing I'd wanna do,
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is give Trump any kind of leeway on not holding an election.
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We already have lunatics like
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former sheriff David Clarke from Milwaukee
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talking about canceling the election
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and just doing it in 2024.
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Oh hell no, we're not gonna do that!
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This disease might kill some of us,
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but it's not gonna kill our democracy.
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More with Cenk Uygur, right after this.
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Welcome back to "Politicking",
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we're talking with Cenk Uygur,
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host of his own all-news and political commentary show
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"The Young Turks".
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He's an outspoken supporter
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of Senator Bernie Sanders's presidential campaign.
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Your feelings about Trump,
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why do you think he hasn't
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turned to better people around him?
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Why do you think he continues to labor
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in a fashion that is almost incomprehensible?
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What do you make of the Trump,
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I mean Trump isn't stupid, is he?
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Yeah, first of all, he most certainly is.
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People overestimate his intelligence all the time.
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I would be surprised if he was above a 70 IQ.
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I've never seen a dumber man in my life,
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let alone in public office.
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He thinks wind causes cancer.
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I mean, I can go on,
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he thought about nuking a hurricane.
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This guy, his IQ is barely off the ground.
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He's incredibly dumb!
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The other day he said, "Oh you know,
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"I know this virus better than the doctors.
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"Maybe I shoulda done that instead of run for president."
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This mental dwarf,
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whatever you wanna call him, little person,
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thinks that he knows better
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than the best scientists and doctors in the world
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when it comes to coronavirus.
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But, to the core of your question Larry,
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the more relevant part here is,
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mobsters don't look for competence,
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they look for loyalty.
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The most important thing is don't get caught.
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So they select for loyalty over competence
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and you see it with Donald Trump all the time.
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He keeps saying Jeff Sessions wasn't loyal enough
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because he allowed a special counsel to investigate him.
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He doesn't care if Jeff Sessions
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was a competent Attorney General,
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a smart guy, proficient,
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he doesn't care about any of that.
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The only thing he cares about is,
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will you be loyal to Donald Trump
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and protect him from law enforcement.
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Because he's been a life-long criminal,
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that's who Donald Trump is.
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So it's unsurprising that he has a bunch of
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incompetent, low-IQ, mobster-wanna-be guys
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as part of his administration.
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All right Cenk,
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a very competent person, Hillary Clinton, ran against him.
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In retrospect, how did he win?
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Yeah so that's actually a relatively easy answer.
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Larry, if you remember, I was on your show
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before the 2016 election,
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and I thought Donald Trump had a really good chance to win.
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But why?
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As I told you he's very low IQ, incompetent, etc.
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That's because I warned that
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the American people don't like the establishment.
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They hate the elites.
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And Hillary Clinton was the most establishment candidate
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the Democratic Party could have possibly found.
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The very worst candidate to run
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against a fake populist like Donald Trump.
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But no one listened to the warnings.
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They were like, "Oh Cenk,
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"Hillary Clinton can't possibly lose."
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Has anybody in the media ever apologized
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for being so terribly wrong about that?
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Have they ever said, "Hey, progressives were right?"
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No.
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Instead they made the same exact mistake this time,
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they all supported Joe Biden
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who's the more establishment candidate.
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At this point in world history
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populists are winning everywhere.
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The question isn't whether it's right-wing or left-wing,
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the question is who is more populist.
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And that's the person that winds up winning.
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So we have the perfect candidate for that in Bernie Sanders,
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but the Democratic Party finds him to be
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a bigger existential threat than Donald Trump.
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Because he would end the corruption,
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and the Democratic leadership thrives on corruption.
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So they'd rather have Donald Trump win
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than have Bernie Sanders win.
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So again they're gonna go
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with the most establishment candidate there is,
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again I'm warning them,
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and if Trump wins again
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they'll probably blame progressives like me again
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and say, "Oh well, if you hadn't given us the proper warning
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"we might have won."
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It's absurd!
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They're never gonna snap out of it!
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The Democratic leadership is so thoroughly corrupt
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it's nearly hopeless.
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Have you given up Cenk?
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No, I never give up.
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I like fighting too much. (laughs)
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So look,
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I helped start a group called Justice Democrats.
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They're the uncorrupted, progressive wing
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of the Democratic Party.
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People like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
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The Young Turks raised two and a half million dollars
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for the candidates in that group,
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and we helped get
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four of the strongest people into Congress,
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AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Ayanna Pressley.
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And there's others like Ro Khanna, Pramila Jayapal,
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who are all Justice Democrats.
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So there is hope.
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We have landed some clean,
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uncorrupted progrssives into Congress.
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And I take, by the way, the seven Justice Democrats
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over the rest of Congress combined.
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And I don't think anyone can argue
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that they aren't the seven strongest people in Congress.
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So we have to do it again.
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For example, Marie Newman has to beat Dan Lipinski,
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she's a Justice Democrat.
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That's on Tuesday.
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Morgan Harper has to win,
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she's in Ohio, that's on Tuesday.
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And if we get more Justice Democrats in,
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they could begin to exert control,
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vote against Democratic leadership,
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and take the party back to where it's supposed to be,
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the party of FDR,
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of the average American and the American worker,
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not the elites and the corrupt donor class.
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Do you think though they hate the word Socialist?
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Yeah, no.
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So older Americans don't like the word Socialist
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because they were brainwashed into believing
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that it's the Soviet Union and Stalin and Lenin and Marxist.
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There's a different word for that, it's called Communist.
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I for example am a capitalist.
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So I don't even call myself a socialist.
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But I, unlike anyone else on TV,
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can apparently tell the difference between
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a Socialist and a Communist.
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You know what's Socialist?
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Denmark, Norway, Finland, arguably Canada.
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Are those scary places?
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No.
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Unfortunately their government works better
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than our government does.
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They provide sick leave,
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they provide maternity leave,
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they provide healthcare, daycare,
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and their economies are perfectly fine.
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The same with Germany.
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So younger people generally find the word Socialism now,
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to be much more popular than the word Capitalism.
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I get criticized all the time
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for calling myself a capitalist.
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So we're thinking about it in all the wrong ways,
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and it's partly because the people on TV
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are elitists and old and set in their ways.
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But it's also partly because, they're all millionaires!
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Multi-multi-millionaires.
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So they don't want any higher taxes.
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They can live with Trump,
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but they can't live with Bernie.
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Biden said he will select a woman as a running mate.
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And would appoint a Black woman to the Supreme Court.
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Sanders said in all likelihood he would do the same.
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What do you think of both of those things?
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Well I would love for a woman to be Vice-President,
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I would love for a woman to be President.
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And I would love for an African-American woman
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to be a Supreme Court Justice.
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I think that they are beginning
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to get ahead of themselves a little bit
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when it comes to the Supreme Court Justice.
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Bernie Sanders had a very important qualifier,
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and by the way he said this
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about a year ago on "The Young Turks"
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so this isn't really news.
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He said he would prefer to have a woman Vice-President,
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but it has to be a progressive woman.
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Well that's super important.
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I don't want Betsy DeVos to be Vice-President,
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I don't want Sarah Huckabee Sanders
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to be a Vice-President, no.
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And honestly, I don't even want
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the corporatist Democratic establishment women
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to be Vice-President either.
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That's a disaster.
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But if it's a progressive woman
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I would love it, love it, love it.
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But in terms of the Supreme Court Justice,
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guys let's,
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let's consider an African-American woman,
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maybe first,
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maybe prioritize them,
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because it's past time that we had
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an African-American woman on the Supreme Court,
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but we should not foreclose any other race or gender.
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We should have a broad look at all the candidates,
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and find the ones who are the most qualified.
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And likely there will be plenty,
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plenty of African-American women
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who are perfectly qualified.
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But let's do a broad search.
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Let's be fair.
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Do you think Elizabeth Warren
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would be a good vice presidential choice?
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I think she'd be a good vice presidential choice
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for Bernie Sanders,
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but also for Joe Biden.
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Maybe more importantly for Joe Biden.
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Hillary Clinton thought she had it locked up,
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and in her infinite arrogance she picked Tim Kaine,
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the least exciting person to ever run for any office,
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let alone Vice-President.
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The minute she made that pick I thought,
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"Oh no, we're doomed!"
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She did not reach out to the other side of the party at all.
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She picked a vanilla candidate
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who wasn't gonna add anything to the ticket.
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Joe Biden can not make that same mistake!
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He should pick a progressive,
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and he said he was gonna pick a woman,
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that doesn't leave that many choices
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in national politics.
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It's a layup to pick Elizabeth Warren.
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If he doesn't it's basically
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spitting in progressives' faces.
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On March 6th Cenk, you tweeted
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that Biden would definitely lose to Trump.
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You also said that Biden appears to have
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some sort of dementia.
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Do you still stand by that?
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So look, I'm very very worried about his mental health.
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So Larry, you and I have been around politics a long time.
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Everybody knows it's Super Tuesday, it's not Super Thursday.
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That's not a random title,
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it's a title that has been around for decades and decades.
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Everybody knows the second state to vote is New Hampshire,
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not Vermont.
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He confused his wife for his sister.
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And the list goes on and on and on.
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So am I worried about that?
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I'm worried to death about it.
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Because we can not afford to lose to Donald Trump!
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Now on the other hand,
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like I told you at the very beginning of this interview,
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Biden looked pretty good last night.
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I don't agree with the things that he said,
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and I've got substantive issues with that.
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But his mental health looked fine,
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he looked competent,
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and it was an enormous relief.
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I don't want him to have problems.
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I want him to be great,
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I want him to be perfectly fine.
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So yes, I'm still worried about him.
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Yes, I'm worried that if any of those things come about,
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the Republicans will rip him to shreds.
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And most importantly Larry,
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when progressives bring up that issue,
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the mainstream media says it's illegitimate
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and you're not allowed to talk about it.
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But the minute the Republicans bring it up
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they'll say, "Oh we had no choice.
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The Republicans made it an issue."
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And they'll talk about it for six straight months
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and doom our chances.
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That's what I'm concerned about.
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So you think that Trump could be reelected?
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If we pick an establishment candidate who,
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you know I hope his mental state is fine,
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but if there's even any issue at all,
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well, it's a recipe for disaster.
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I hope to god it's not the case.
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I hope Biden's fine.
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I said a year ago,
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before I saw any of Biden's,
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not gaffs, but mental lapses,
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I said of course Biden can beat Trump.
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Almost every one of these candidates
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could easily beat Trump.
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Including, certainly, Bernie Sanders.
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I think Bernie Sanders has the best chance
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because he brings in Independents.
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But now, I'm worried about Biden.
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He has anchored himself
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in the establishment wing of the party.
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He takes huge donor money, people hate that.
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And now with these cognitive issues,
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if they're real,
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then yes he could lose to Donald Trump.
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But knock on wood and hope that they are not real,
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they are not substantial.
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If he's fine,
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if he was as I suspected a year ago,
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then he will beat Trump.
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Cenk as always, thank you for joining us.
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All right, thank you Larry.
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Really appreciate it.
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And thank you audience for joining me
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on this edition of "Politicking".
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Remember, you can join the conversation on my Facebook page,
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From my spacious home in Los Angeles,
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that's all for this edition of "Politicking".
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