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Geraldo Rivera on his friendship with Donald Trump.
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What he says about the Russian bounty charges,
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and how is he a friend of the President?
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And how's the President handling race relations?
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All on this edition of "Politicking".
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Welcome to "Politicking".
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I'm Larry King.
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Geraldo Rivera celebrating a half century
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in the news business.
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Fox News correspondent at large and host
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of "I am Geraldo: 50 years" now streaming on FOX Nation.
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I only have him beat by 13 years.
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This is my 63rd year Geraldo.
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It's good to see you again.
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You too Larry.
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You're the real veteran.
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I feel like a young rookie next to you buddy.
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(Larry laughing)
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Okay let's get into it.
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What's your take on the media reports that Russia,
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and they get stronger everyday,
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offering bounties to Taliban fighters?
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Well I think a lot of things about it Larry.
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First of all, makes me furious.
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Makes me wanna puke.
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I get very angry if the charges are true.
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You know when Russia was in Afghanistan,
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the United States backed the Mujahideen,
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we called them in those days.
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They were our allies.
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They were freedom fighters and we did supply them
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with the RPGs and the other targeted missiles
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that they used to shoot the Russians,
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so it's part of the dirty game of the great game,
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the war,
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the quiet war that's been going on.
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I hope these charges are not true.
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They seem illogical in the context of today
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with peace talks going on.
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We wanna get out of Afghanistan.
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Our longest war.
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I did 11 assignments there.
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I'm sick of it though.
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We've lost so many people.
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I wanna get out.
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We wanna get out.
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The Russians want us out.
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Why would the Russians do something that would piss us off?
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I don't know.
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It seems illogical,
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but it also seems like yet another attack
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on Donald Trump, Larry.
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Putin told me years ago that he doesn't
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wanna tell America what to do,
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but the biggest mistake you're making
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is being in Afghanistan.
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Well I agree with Vladimir Putin on that.
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Afghanistan, once we got rid of Al-Qaeda,
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we should have just said goodbye to Afghanistan,
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and trying to build a modern nation there.
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We have the same frustrations the Russians did,
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the British did, Alexander the Great did.
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It's not a conquerable country.
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And I wanna leave the Afghans to their faith Larry.
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President Trump says this is probably
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another fabricated Russian hoax by fake news.
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(scoffs)
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Geraldo, we're both in the news.
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You regard this as fake?
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I think that any story about Trump that puts Trump
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in a negative light gets traction with the mainstream media.
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There is a real hatred of the 45th President
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by the mainstream media, by The Washington Post,
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by The New York Times, by the big networks.
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I think they take any bit of evidence.
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Any shred of proof of some negative story,
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and they put it on the front page.
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Russia, the collusion, was a hoax.
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For three years, America was distracted by this fake story.
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So I would not be at all surprised if this current story
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was also fake.
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I wanna see the proof myself.
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I wanna know was the President briefed?
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Okay, I know you a long time.
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I know President Trump a long, long, time.
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Do you regard him as a good President?
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The President has had a very difficult time Larry.
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I consider him a friend of mine.
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I think that he's done some great things prior
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to the pandemic.
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America's economy was at historic highs.
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It was humming along in such an effective
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and efficient way that it was elevating many
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of the historically disadvantaged groups.
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African American unemployment was at the lowest level ever.
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More women were working than ever before.
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Our general unemployment rate was the lowest ever.
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Things were really working.
But,
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but there is a but here.
He was a great.
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He was doing so well before the pandemic hit Larry.
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Ah, but when the pandemic hit,
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you said that Trump was doing an epic job
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(Larry laughing)
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It's almost funny,
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of mitigating the coronavirus catastrophe.
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How could you possibly have said that?
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Hindsight is 20/20 Larry.
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I wonder how any of us would have handled it.
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I know that on CNN in the first week of March,
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they were saying that this was going to be just another flu.
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That it was another annoyance.
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And then two weeks later, it was this epic epidemic.
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Who said that?
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Anderson Cooper.
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Anderson, check it out.
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I don't remember anyone at CNN.
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Around March 4th, March 5th,
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March 4th or 5th.
Called it a flu?
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It was compared it to the flu.
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Everyone was, everyone, not everyone.
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Once China lied to the WHO,
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once they lied about the human to human transfer
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of the disease,
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we were all back on our heels.
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We were all taking it easy.
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We were all distracted by that phony impeachment
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that was happening to the President.
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We were all distracted by politics.
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We were all with our eye off the ball.
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Did the President?
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Was he the wizard,
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who steered us through this with minimum damage?
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No, obviously not.
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There were missteps made.
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I wish, I wish we had taken it more seriously.
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But he was not alone Larry.
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That's my point.
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And there were no voices, loud voices.
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More with Geraldo Rivera right after this.
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No loud voices.
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Oh come on now.
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Weren't you once a liberal?
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This has nothing to do with liberal or conservative.
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I was never Democrat.
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I've never been.
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I've always been a registered Republican or an Independent.
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In terms of being a progressive person
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or a relatively moderate person,
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I consider myself road kill.
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Why road kill?
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Roger Ailes once said,
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"The only thing in the middle of the road
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in American politics is road kill."
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I'm in the middle of the road.
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And in terms of immigration reform,
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in terms of abortion or choice,
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in terms of gun control,
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I still have progressive viewpoints.
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But I believe in the American enterprise system,
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and I want to give the 45th President of the United States
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the benefit of the doubt.
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He has been harried.
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He has been harassed.
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He has been attacked.
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He has been, even before he took office,
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they were trying to impeach him.
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It's been very, very, frustrating to watch
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as cheerleaders in the mainstream media have taken
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every story, every scrap,
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like the Russian collusion bologney.
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Everybody looking back on it knows now the President
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of the United States was not a spy for Russia.
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He wasn't a traitor to the United States.
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He wasn't a secret agent who's alliance
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was to Moscow not Washington.
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And yet, that was a front page story in The New York Times.
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He's been treated extremely unfairly,
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and I think that history will judge him more modest,
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more moderately in hind sight
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than he is currently being judged.
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You think he's a one term President?
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Do I think the President is going to win reelection?
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It's a very, very difficult uphill climb for the President.
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He's behind Joe Biden in every poll by double digits.
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I think that the President will be judged by what happens
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with this pandemic.
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If we can get a handle on it,
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I think he has a reasonable chance of reelection.
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If not, I think he'll be defeated Larry.
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As a champion of civil rights,
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you a champion of civil rights,
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how do regard this President's record
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regarding race relations?
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In that area?
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How's he done?
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That's a great question.
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As a Republican, I think that the best way,
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the best civil right is a good paying job,
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with great benefits, and job security.
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I think that's what Trump delivered.
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In that way, Trump was a civil rights activist.
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By elevating the most humble among us,
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he was doing a civil right.
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That was real civil rights.
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Not the empty rhetoric that we've heard for decades.
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He was helping improve the lives of minority people.
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That's a civil rights activist in my view.
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Now is he lifelong member of the NAACP?
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Is he a member of Black Lives Matter?
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Has he embraced the politicians
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who are generally speaking, urban Democrats.
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You know I think the answer to that is obvious,
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but you knew that when you asked me the question.
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(laughing)
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Don't you embrace Black Lives Matter?
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Don't Black Lives Matter
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and the President has never said it?
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Never said it.
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You know Larry, last weekend in Chicago,
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18 people were killed.
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Black people killed by other black people
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including four teenagers,
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and a 20 month old child.
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If Black Lives Matter really cared,
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then those Black lives would matter.
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Black toddlers lives would matter.
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Black infants lives would matter.
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Black teenagers lives would matter,
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but the Black Lives Matter,
Are you, are you,
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are you saying Blacks-
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Hold it, let me just finish.
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You don't, you're saying Blacks don't care about that?
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I think the Black Lives Matter organization
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only cares about Black lives taken by Blue, by cops.
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This is all about police brutality,
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the relationship between the police
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and the minority community.
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It's not about Black Lives Matter,
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it's about Black and Blue relations.
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Those are separate issues.
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I think of far more important issue in terms
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of Black Lives aside from the economy,
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is this urban violence that has been a plague
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on the United States.
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I mean how is it so many people die in a single weekend
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and it it's not a mention of it from any Democrat.
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Where was Joe Biden when 18 people
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were killed in Chicago last weekend?
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I'm sure he cares,
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but he doesn't speak to it,
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because it doesn't suit his political agenda.
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The political agenda is everybody on the Democratic side
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flock to Black Lives Matter,
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and create an illusion that if you're not
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for Black Lives Matter, you're not for civil rights,
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and that's false, Larry.
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So you could hardly call Donald Trump forerunner
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in the battle for civil rights on the part of Blacks.
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You could never say that Geraldo.
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I could not believe you could ever say that.
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Donald Trump is a leader in the civil rights movement
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in this country.
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Larry I go back to what I said.
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When Black unemployment with below 5% and closer
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to white unemployment that it has ever been,
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that to me is civil rights.
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The civil rights,
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who passed the Criminal Justice Reform?
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Did Barack Obama pass Criminal Justice Reform?
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No, it was Donald Trump.
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In a bipartisan effort.
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He just did that.
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What about the economic Opportunity Zones
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that Trump has created?
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I think they have to give credit where credit is due.
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Is some of his language unfortunate?
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Does he sometimes have a casual cavalier attitude?
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Does he not recognize that
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when you endorse Confederate statues,
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you are offending people?
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I think that all those things are true,
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and I think that he deserves just criticism
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for that thick head and thin skin that he has.
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Having said that,
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I go back to what my point is.
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My point is there's gross hypocrisy on the left
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when it comes to civil rights.
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And it takes sometimes someone like Donald Trump
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to pierce the veil of that hypocrisy
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to reveal the harsh truth underneath Larry.
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We'll have more with Geraldo Rivera right
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after these words.
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Welcome back to "Politicking".
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We're talking with my old friend Geraldo Rivera,
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Fox News correspondent-at-large,
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host of "I am Geraldo: 50 years" streaming on Fox Nation.
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You talk about the bias on the left.
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What about your own network and bias on the right?
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Well there's no doubt Larry that our,
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can I just interrupt ourselves and point out that in 1985,
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this is a little bit of television trivia.
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I was fired by ABC News and the only job I was offered,
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the only job I got,
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you gave me as your substitute at CNN 1985.
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Look it up.
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I was proud to sit in your chair when you were on vacation.
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It was the only job I could get.
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(laughing)
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Is there bias at Fox News?
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I remember Geraldo.
And the primetime host,
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(laughing)
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and the primetime host at Fox News definitely
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are very conservative.
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Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham,
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are among the most vocal conservative commentators
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in media anywhere on earth.
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There's no doubt about it.
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They are definitely, if you wanna say,
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they're not prejudice, they're conservatives.
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And most of the media is liberal.
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So definitely they're the most conservative group
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of hosts anywhere,
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that you would find anywhere in big time television.
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There's some splinter networks that maybe have people
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who are more fire brand, more right wing,
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but no doubt that those three people are very effective,
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very strong conservative voices.
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But during the day,
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Fox News, if you watch it,
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is just another news channel.
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We have reporters that go out,
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they do stories, they take 'em right down the middle,
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they report the facts,
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there's not an opinion given generally speaking.
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The morning show, Fox and Friends, like the evening show,
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also is political,
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but the vast news gathering that goes on all day long
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during the day,
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I think that is just as down the middle
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as any of the networks.
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More so, I would submit Larry.
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Is there anything Donald Trump does that bothers you?
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Donald Trump is thin skinned.
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He's tempestuous.
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I hate the way that he goes on Twitter so promiscuously.
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He's so, in many ways, so passionate about,
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and so sensitive, super sensitive,
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that he responds in a way that he spends
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the next couple of days,
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he does that in 30 seconds,
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and he spends the next couple of days having to explain it,
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or the people around him are put
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in a tremendous disadvantage because of it.
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As I said he's very intemperate and that's,
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his thin skin is the worst aspect.
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He's a very prideful person.
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And he's had a terrible time.
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I mean how would you feel if the first three years
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of your job,
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the whole vast apparatus of the Democratic machine
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was trying to get you fired,
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get you impeached.
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Even evoking if they could the 25th Amendment
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to have him replaced as non compos mentis.
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I mean how would you feel?
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How would you react?
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I mean the guys got a beef Larry.
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A judge has granted his brother Robert Trump
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a temporary restraining order against a new book
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by his niece, calling him,
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"Too Much and Never Enough:
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How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man."
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Knowing you as a civil libertarian,
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you can't support the banning of a book.
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I don't.
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I think that it's an exercise in futility.
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For full disclosure of everything including his tax returns,
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I think that all of these hidden things will ultimately
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be public anyway.
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Why fight them?
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The fight draws more attention to them like the fight
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against John Bolton's hideous book just drew
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more attention to it.
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I think it laid an egg anyway,
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but I wish the President would just not bother
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with his niece or anyone else.
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Let 'em write it.
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It's just another Trump book Larry.
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What was your rub against John Bolton?
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Did you read the book?
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What was your rub against him?
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I read the excerpts that were available.
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My rub against John Bolton is that he never saw a war
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that he didn't like.
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Beginning in late 2003,
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he's had a toxic influence on America foreign policy
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dragging us into perpetuating the Iraq war for example.
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His situation vis a vis Iran is very troubling.
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Has been very troubling.
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I think that he's been a bad influence on the President.
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I oppose the President and the attack
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on the Iranian militia leader.
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I think that the Boltonsque foreign policy
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of the United States in the Middle East is very toxic.
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I think that Iran is getting short shrift.
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I think we should stay in the nuclear agreement
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that was negotiated with Iran.
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I think that we have more in common with Iran
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than we do with Saudi Arabia.
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I think our foreign policy is warped in the Middle East.
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And I think that Bolton helped graph it Larry.
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We'll continue the conversation with Geraldo Rivera
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right after this break.
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What about what he writes in the book
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about the President?
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Doesn't that give you pause?
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I know the President as well as,
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I don't, I don't know what the relationship was
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between John Bolton and the President.
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I know that he hired him as the National Security Advisor.
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Bolton has always been very controversial.
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He couldn't get confirmed to be an ambassador
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to the United Nations.
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Even he was too hot to handle,
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many of the Fox commentators tried to avoid John Bolton.
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No sir, I don't like him.
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I've never liked him.
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I wish the President never hired him.
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I think he's had a very negative impact
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on American foreign policy.
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I'm glad his book bombed.
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His book bombed?
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Where did you see that it bombed?
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Well I haven't seen it at the top of the Best Seller List
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and there's a lot of Trump haters that would buy it.
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I haven't checked out the Best Seller List lately.
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All things aside, what kind of guy Bolton is,
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aren't you disturbed when he tells you that
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a President thinks Finland is still a part of Russia?
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Come on.
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I, I'm not gonna defend Trump's education-
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Come on.
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He did go to Wharton.
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Finland and Russia have
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been closely associated historically.
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They fought a couple of wars.
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Finland is a great place.
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It is adjacent to Russia.
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It may be, maybe it's easy to confuse.
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I know the difference,
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but then again Sweden is right there,
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and Sweden is different.
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(Geraldo laughing)
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(Larry laughing)
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All right, you now slide into Saturday the 4th of July,
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which is your birthday.
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How about that?
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How about that?
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77 years old.
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You were born on the 4th of July.
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A pretty good movie.
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(Geraldo laughing)
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George M. Cohan.
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What do you plan on doing?
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Not going to Mount Rushmore.
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I wish would the President would adhere
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to social distancing.
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We'll do as little as we possibly can.
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I started telling my family in my 50s
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that let's not celebrate this anymore.
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There's a epidemic of illegal fireworks
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in every big city in the country.
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So my birthday comes with the company of unpleasant noise.
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So I don't know.
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I'll be with as many of my family
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as I can have around me Larry.
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One thing that's hard to believe about Mr. Trump,
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who I like very much as a friend,
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and know him for as long as you do,
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that refusal to wear a mask,
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why, how on earth, how can you refuse to wear a mask?
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Like the Twitter storms that he unleashes
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very imprudently from time to time,
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I think his stubbornness,
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when it comes to wearing a mask is very, very unfortunate.
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I don't think that masks are the be all and end all,
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but I do believe in the science and in the scientists.
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And if they say wear a damn mask,
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I don't know why the President,
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I understand that he lives in
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a safe environment more or less.
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I understand that he's tested on a daily basis,
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but I think the example that he's setting in not wearing
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a mask is very unfortunate.
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It's unnecessary.
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I don't see the, what's it showing that he's macho?
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That he's stronger than the disease.
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I don't like it.
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I wish he would wear a mask.
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I have counseled him thusly.
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And I wear a mask, and I wish everybody did Larry.
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You wear a mask to benefit people around you,
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not for yourself.
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So the President by not wearing a mask,
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hurts the people he's around.
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Not himself.
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I think that it's a very bad example.
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I understand the science as you suggest.
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It keeps in the,
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you know when you spit and all the rest of it.
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I just wish that he would wear one as an example.
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I don't think he's gonna be that close to that many people,
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but I still wish that he would wear one as an example.
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I mean Mike Pence is wearing one now.
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Most of the Cabinet as I see them are wearing it.
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Why not?
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And finally on the election,
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you expect a big turnout?
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What kind of day do you expect to happen November 3rd?
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I think turnout will determine this election.
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If you get the kind of turnout that happened in 2010
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for example, in the mid terms, the Tea Party year,
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I think that Trump will carry the day.
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If there's a, where Van Jones,
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the CNN Commentator called it a whitelash,
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I think the President will triumph,
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particularly if he gets some Black men to go his way.
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And some proportion of the Latino vote to go his way.
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I also think that if this election is like 2018,
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a mid term where the Democrats really were energized,
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and women, suburban women came out
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to defeat the Republicans,
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it'll go Joe Bidden's way.
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I think turnout is crucial.
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I hope the American people are engaged.
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Whatever side you're on,
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I hope that there is a historic turnout,
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and I think that the voting should be made
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as easy as possible.
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The President is wrong about mail-in ballots.
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I think absentee ballots are fine,
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as long as there's some tracing
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of some professionalism behind it,
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but I think that this will be a race to watch.
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A race for the ages Larry.
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Geraldo, as always, great seeing you and Happy Birthday!
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Thank you very much.
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It's been a delight.
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Thanks very much mate.
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Thank you audience for joining us as well.
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Remember you can join the conversation on my Facebook page,
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or tweet me @KingsThings and don't forget to use
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the Politicking hashtag and that's all for this edition
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of "Politicking".
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