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One-on-one with Chris Christie,
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the former governor of New Jersey,
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and one time GOP rival of Donald Trump
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(dramatic music)
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on this edition of Politicking.
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Welcome to Politicking, I'm Larry King.
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He says more Americans are gonna die
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no matter what the US does about COVID-19.
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The challenge is deciding how to balance the situation.
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So where's the balance?
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To find out as Chris Christie,
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former Republican governor of New Jersey,
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one time GOP rival of Donald Trump,
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who went on to serve as head of Trump's transition team,
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he joins us from New Jersey.
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Governor, thank you.
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The United States has about 4.25% of the world's population,
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but 29% of coronavirus deaths,
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how do you account for that?
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I think a few things Larry.
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First off, it's great to be back on with you.
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I would say this,
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first off, I think we're the most transparent society
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in the world.
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So I think we're giving accurate information all the time.
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I don't think you can say that about the Chinese,
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the North Koreans, the Russians,
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I don't think we're getting accurate information from them.
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And I can't imagine that the Chinese
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don't have more coronavirus cases than us.
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But the other thing too is Larry,
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we were a little bit slow to react here.
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There's no question about that,
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that I was advocating in early March a shutdown.
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It really didn't happen for another two weeks after that.
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You look at your state where you are right now California,
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they shut down sooner than anybody else,
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and I think as a result,
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they've gone through this a little bit better
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than anybody else, especially relative to their population.
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So they were a little slow at the beginning.
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And I also think other places
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aren't being nearly as honest as we are about it.
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In the Washington Post op-ed last month,
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you wrote, " the grim reality is that additional lives
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will be lost as we reopen our country."
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How many, that's easy, is easy 'cause we're alive,
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but that's tough to face isn't it Governor?
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It is tough to face Larry,
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but lemme tell you what else is gonna happen.
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If we don't open up,
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we're gonna lose a lot of lives as well,
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which you're already seeing
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in the statistics across the country Larry,
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increase in depression,
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increase in domestic violence,
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increase in drug addiction,
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increase in suicide.
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Working people in this country, Larry,
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they need to go back to work,
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not just because it's financially what it does,
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but what it does for their self-esteem every day.
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And we are going to lose a lot of people,
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a lot of people if we don't let people get back to work.
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We can't have a riskless situation here.
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And we certainly can't wait for a vaccine Larry,
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because a vaccine may never come.
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We're still waiting for the SARS vaccine.
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Yeah.
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We're still waiting for the H1N1 vaccine, right?
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So Americans are smart,
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and they know there's gonna be some risk,
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but also Larry,
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we're gonna act differently
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than we acted pre of the shutdown.
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People will wear masks,
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people will wash their hands frequently,
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they will sanitize hard surfaces,
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they will socially distance,
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we're not gonna be shaking hands or high fiving,
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or hugging people for a long time.
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And so I think there will be changes in that way as well,
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which will make the infection rate less
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than it was pre shutdown.
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We may never shake hands again, right?
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We may not.
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That would make the president really happy.
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He always hated shaking hands anyway.
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(laughing)
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So he may be happy--
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He was a germaphobe when,
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he was a germaphobe--
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Absolutely.
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When I first met him.
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Sure, absolutely.
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And only when he got into politics
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did he starts shaking hands.
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Yeah, back in early March,
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you endorsed state shutdowns to flatten the curve
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because you said it was the right thing to do.
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Have the economic consequences of these shutdowns
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been worse than you expected?
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A little bit worse than expected,
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although I expected it to be pretty bad.
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But also Larry,
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we needed to do that at that time
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because we did need to flatten the curve,
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because for the biggest reason
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was because our healthcare systems
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would have become overwhelmed.
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And then you start triage and care,
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and making choices about who lives and who dies.
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And Americans don't wanna be put in that position.
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So we did it.
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But remember, it was to flatten the curve,
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not to find a cure.
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It was to flatten the curve.
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We've done that.
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And now we need to go back to work out
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what we need to work out.
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And we'll do it better this time.
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And I just continue to listen to folks who say,
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until it's perfectly safe,
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well then we should reduce the speed limit
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to 25 miles an hour too Larry.
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I mean, there's risks we take every day in this country
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to do things the way we wanna do them.
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You wrote in The Washington Post
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that Americans now understand
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the importance of wearing masks.
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Trump very public refusal to wear a mask.
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What do you make of that?
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I don't stand the president being in groups of people
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and not wearing a mask.
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It's a mistake.
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And I said it when Vice President Pence went out to a clinic
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and didn't wear a mask, I said he should.
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He's now started to wear a mask since then.
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And I think the president should wear one too
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when he's around other people.
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Now, he'll argue
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that he is probably the only person in America
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who's tested every day.
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So he knows whether he has the virus or not.
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But the fact of the matter is,
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I think he should wear a mask and I wish he would.
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More with Chris Christie right after this.
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Also in The Washington Post,
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you declared that now is the time
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for honestly telling our citizens as FDR did in '42,
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that preserving our country and our cause
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will not be without sacrifice.
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Do you think as a people, we are prepared for that?
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Yes, I believe in the American people.
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Look at what they've been doing
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for the last 10 weeks, Larry.
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For the most part,
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this country has voluntarily shut itself down.
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The last 10 weeks, people have lost their businesses,
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they've lost an enormous amount of money,
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there's been great as we've talked about before
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mental health effects,
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but the American people did it,
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because they thought
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that's what was in the best interest of the country.
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And now as the best interest of the country
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are gonna be for reopening the country,
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the American people will understand
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that there's gonna be risk involved with that,
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there'll be smart about it.
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And by the way, Larry, the most vulnerable folks,
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folks who are older,
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folks who have underlying health conditions,
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they're gonna have to stay in for the most part,
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because they're most at risk of really getting this virus
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in a way that could end their lives.
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Frankly, and I know you're in the Republican Party,
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has the Trump leadership leave much to be desired here?
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Listen, I think it was a little slow
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in the beginning Larry.
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he didn't take it as seriously as he could have.
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I think, though, starting around the time
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he gave his Oval Office speech in the middle of March,
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I think the president has followed what the medical experts
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have asked him to do in flattening the curve,
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he's taking historical steps,
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and try to give a safety net under people
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for the economic concerns.
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And I think now he's leading correctly
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to try to get the country reopened.
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And so in the beginning,
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I think it was a little bit slow,
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but overall, I think the president has gotten to it,
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and I think he's doing a good job.
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Congress has already past close to $3 trillion
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in coronavirus relief,
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the Democratic controlled house approved
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another three trillion,
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Republican controlled Senate has no action schedule,
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what do you think we should do?
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We're gonna have to do something Larry,
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but three trillion is out of control.
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And I think that we haven't even distributed
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the first three trillion yet in whole.
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So I do think it's smart to take a little time
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to see how that's gonna work.
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But I do think you're gonna have to ultimately provide
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some aid to the states to continue them,
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to make up the revenue they've lost,
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not to make up for past sins,
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but to make up for the revenue that they've lost.
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And I do think we're gonna need to give some more help
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to folks out there who are really struggling
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in terms of unemployment benefits and worker retraining.
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Do we need more aid though?
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If three trillion was fine,
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do you think we should do one trillion more?
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I think that we're gonna get much closer to that number
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than the three, Larry.
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And I think some of that's gonna have to go to the states
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to help them.
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Some's gonna continue to have to go
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to our healthcare system,
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and then some is gonna have to go to people
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who are the most injured during this,
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to keep a roof over their heads,
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to keep food on their tables.
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It is a sin in this country Larry,
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to have the number of people we have right now
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standing at food bank lines.
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It's heartbreaking.
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There's a woman outside Atlantic City,
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who was in The New York Times a week or so ago,
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who has been working since she was 15 years old,
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she's now 54, and she said,
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"it the first time I've ever been in the food bank line
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in my life, I feel like a failure."
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That woman hasn't failed in anything.
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And we need to get her back to work, making money,
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so she can get back her life.
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How's New Jersey doing?
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Second worst in the country, Larry.
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We have the second most deaths,
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the second most cases just behind New York.
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And that's for a few reasons I think.
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Part of it is we as you know, being from the area,
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we're a bedroom community to New York City.
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A lot of people work in Manhattan and the boroughs every day
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and travel back home to live in New Jersey.
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So a lot of that commuting in those packs trains,
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I'm sure conveyed a lot of this virus early on.
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Second, we did not act quickly to close here.
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Princeton University closed the fourth Larry,
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and they even bought airline tickets
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for the students who couldn't afford it.
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That's how urgent they thought it was to campus.
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Yet we did Jersey for another two weeks.
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I think when we look back on it,
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that's been a mistake.
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And third, the biggest mistake is our nursing homes.
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We ordered nursing homes to take COVID-19 patients.
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And so 54 per deaths in New Jersey,
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over 5000 people have died
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in the home Larry, and veterans homes.
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That's unacceptable.
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the second worst in the country.
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Sad, President Trump predicts the United States
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will have incredibly strong fourth quarter economic growth
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and a phenomenal comeback in 2021.
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What does he base that on?
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I think he's looking at what the fundamentals were
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before all this, Larry.
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It wasn't an economic downturn.
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if we can get the virus under control,
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those economic circumstances in the main
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will go back to where they were.
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I forget where the president was and I
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but one of them said he wished he had a one-armed economist.
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So the economists couldn't say on the one hand this,
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but on the other hand that.
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(laughing)
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And I think economists are known for that,
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and nobody really knows for sure what's gonna happen.
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and to try to put forward an optimistic vision of the future
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to give the people of this country hope,
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and I think that's part of what the president's doing.
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Before we move on to other things,
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what are you doing now?
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Well, a number of different things.
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First of all, I've been staying at home
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for the last nine, 10 weeks now, Larry.
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Our two older children moved back from the city
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to move in with us,
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and so all six of us are back home.
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And the silver lining and all this has been,
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we've had more dinners together in the last 10 weeks
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than we had in the 10 years before that,
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given me being governor,
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so that's been great.
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And, I'm still serving on boards,
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I'm doing my work for ABC, as you know as a commentator,
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and I have a consulting firm
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that's trying to help with strategic consulting,
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and crisis consulting.
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So we've got some business going on right now,
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given the crisis we're in.
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We'll have more with former Governor Chris Christie
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right after these words.
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Welcome back to Politicking,
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guest Chris Christie,
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former Republican governor of New Jersey,
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one time GOP rival of Donald Trump,
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who went on to serve as head of Trump's transition team.
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He joins us from New Jersey.
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Earlier this month in the unanimous ruling,
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the US Supreme Court tossed out
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the federal government's case
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in the so called bridge gate scandal,
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clearing the convictions of two people who worked for you,
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said that the government may have done poorly,
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but it wasn't unconstitutional.
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What do you make of that ruling?
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Well, Larry, it was vindication.
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I told you when I was with you a year ago on my book tour,
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that that's what I thought the US Supreme Court
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was going to do.
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And the reason for that is this was a vindictive,
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political prosecution by a prosecutor
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in the Obama Justice Department,
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who was looking to take me out,
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and didn't care which people in my administration he hurt.
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What the Supreme Court said in that decision Larry
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was that the law was clear,
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that these actions while stupid, were not a crime,
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and certainly not a federal crime,
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and that the prosecutor should have known that at the time.
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And I believe he didn't know that at the time Larry.
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He went forward because he was on a political mission
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on a vindictive mission.
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And when you lose nine nothing before this Supreme Court,
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that's been so divided,
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that tells you just how bad that conduct was.
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Okay, but the court said it did indicate abuse of power.
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It did.
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What is the remedy for abuse of power
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if it's not constitutional, what's the remedy?
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You fire them, Larry.
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You fire them, which is exactly what I did.
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As soon as I found out about what they did,
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they were fired, and publicly they were shamed
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by that firing.
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And, not everything wrong in life is criminal.
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And that was wrong.
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What they did was wrong, and they were fired.
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But they did not belong in federal prison Larry.
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And what this prosecutor did was unconscionable.
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You know one of these folks
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went to jail for three months, Larry,
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before the Supreme Court actually granted certiorari
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in this case, and the trial judge then released him.
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But he served three months in jail
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for a crime that didn't exist.
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That's unconscious.
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Prosecutors should not be doing that.
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And this prosecutor should be held to account
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for what he did.
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Speaking of crimes that don't exist,
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Trump keeps talking about Obamagate.
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And he said everybody knows what it is.
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Do you know what it is?
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No, I don't know yet.
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(laughing)
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Listen, I think if there's an investigation
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going on by John Durham,
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regarding what went on with the Russia investigation,
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and the conduct of the FBI regarding General Flynn,
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let's let him do the investigation.
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I've sent this to the president all along.
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I said tell him during the Muller investigation,
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and Ukraine investigation.
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Mr.President, if you did nothing wrong,
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that will come out in the end,
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but you gotta let the process work.
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But we know our friend the president, Larry.
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Yeah.
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He's not always the most patient fellow in the world.
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No he isn't, I've known him many years.
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No, I don't see it yet.
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And apparently I read today, Larry,
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that attorney general Barr doesn't see it yet, either.
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Right (laughing).
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So I don't see it.
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But we'll let the investigation go on,
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and see where it leads.
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And every investigation should be given its chance
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to find the facts.
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But we shouldn't be having a pre-determined outcome, Larry.
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That's not what America is, and it never should be.
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Trump once called Bush, George Bush the second,
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the worst president we've ever had.
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Now he calls Obama the worst.
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He has been on Obama forever,
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insistent that his inaugural crowds were bigger,
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denouncing Obama as grossly incompetent.
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You can't agree with that, can you?
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Listen, I didn't vote for President Obama either time.
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I voted for John McCain, and I voted for Mitt Romney.
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But what I will tell you though, Larry is that
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this is who the president is.
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You know this.
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You've known him for 40 years, right?
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I've known him for 20 years.
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This is who he is.
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He is at route a salesman,
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he's somebody who's selling his point of view
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and pushing it all the time,
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and there's hyperbole involved in that.
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And so do I think Barrack Obama
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is the worst president in history?
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No, no I think the James Buchanan definitely beats him out.
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(laughing)
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Well Franklin Pierce wasn't high either.
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Frank Pierce was not a great one either, Larry,
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you're exactly right.
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(laughing)
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So, but in the end, this is who...
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I always get surprised that
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when people act surprised about this stuff.
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This is the way Donald Trump has been his whole life.
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And in all the years I've known him,
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and certainly that's the way he campaigns for president.
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Remember at one of his debates,
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Hillary said something like,
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well, we're glad someone like Donald Trump
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is not in charge of our criminal justice system.
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And he said, "I'm sure you're glad 'cause you'd be in jail."
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He said those things during the campaign,
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and people voted for him.
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So this is who he is, and you just have to take his word
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at times with that understanding.
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So why then do many like yourself in the Republican Party
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seem to make excuses for him?
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I don't make excuses for him Larry.
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Like just then that wasn't an excuse.
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That was an explanation.
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I want people to understand.
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But also I agree in the main with the president's policies.
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And in the end, what I vote for a president,
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the biggest thing I'm concerned about
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is his political philosophy,
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and what direction he will take the country in,
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and I like the fiscal policies
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that the President is pursued,
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I like the military policies the president has pursued.
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And so as a result, I supported him in 2016,
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and I'm gonna be supporting him again in 2020.
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More with Chris Christie right after the break.
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Overview of that of the next campaign, Biden and Trump.
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Well, Larry, I think right now
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it's a referendum on Donald Trump.
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Right now I don't think Joe Biden matters in the least.
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And that's not being negative about Joe Biden.
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I just think right now,
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with all the focus on coronavirus response,
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that people are gonna decide
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whether they agree with how the president's doing it or not,
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and that will determine a lot of people's votes.
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The challenge for the president
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is gonna be to make this a two-person race.
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A referendum is never good for anybody.
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But if it's a two-person race,
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and the president can compare himself
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to Vice President Biden,
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then I think the president has a legitimate chance
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to be reelected.
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A referendum is much tougher,
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because the other guy doesn't have to do anything.
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He just has to be there.
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So right now I think it's a referendum.
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But I think the president is gonna be moving
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towards trying to turn it into a head-to-head race.
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And when he does, I think he has a good chance
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to beat the vice president,
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'cause he's more in step philosophically
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with where the American people are.
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So the pandemic in your opinion will be an issue.
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It'll be the biggest issue.
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It will be the biggest issue Larry,
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bigger than any other issue.
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Now, what we can't tell right now,
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because it's still five months away,
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is exactly how big and what else will intervene.
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But you've watched American politics your whole life Larry,
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something else will intervene.
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It won't knock the pandemic off the screen,
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but it'll make sure that the pandemic
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has to share some space with something else,
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but I don't have a crystal ball,
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so I can't figure out which one that's gonna be.
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What do you think of him making fun of Joe Biden though?
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About his age, he's only five years older than Trump.
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And about his sleepy calling him sleepy Joe Biden,
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that's not very classy.
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Now, again, do we remember
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that this is the same guy who called low-energy Jeb--
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Yap.
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And little Marco,
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(laughing)
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and lying Ted Cruz and crazy John Kasich,
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like so, and Crooked Hillary, right?
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So this is the way the president campaigns.
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This is who he is.
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And so we can't expect it's gonna be any different
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with Joe Biden.
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And I will say this,
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that when Vice President Biden has been out there Larry,
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he certainly has been lose to the tongue and other things
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that have made some of his opponents on the Democratic side
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say some of the same kinda things about him.
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And I've led some people to be a little concerned about,
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how vigorous a campaign
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of the vice president's gonna be able to be.
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So we're gonna see.
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But that's the great thing about a presidential campaign is,
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you know Larry, is it's the brightest lights in the world.
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And whatever is out there for us to know.
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I think we're gonna learn a lot
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about both of these guys over the next five months,
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and then get to make a decision in November.
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Let's talk about you.
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What, are you coming back to politics?
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I can't imagine that I won't at some point Larry.
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I love being in public service a lot.
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I'm enjoying my time in the private sector right now.
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I've got two more kids to put through college.
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So we gotta go out there and make some money
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to be able to get them through college.
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But I can't imagine that at 57 years old,
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I'm done with public service and the political life.
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I enjoy too much,
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and I think I have a lot to offer.
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So we'll see.
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I don't know how that'll happen Larry,
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and I don't have a plan yet,
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but we'll have a plan, it will be ready to go
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after this election in November.
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We're both big sports fans.
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Do you think sports is coming back?
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I do, I do think sports are coming back for two reasons.
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I think, one, that conditions are gonna get better,
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and will allow the athletes to be able to play
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against each other safely.
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But also, I think the sports leagues understand
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the unique role that they play in the American way of life.
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And you and I were talking before we got on today
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about the fact that we're both sick of watching reruns
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of things that we've already seen,
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and know result of.
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Nice fit, but I'd like some current sports on too.
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I think it'll help the psyche of the country.
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So I think this sports leads
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for all the money that the American people
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give to the sports leagues,
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tickets and TV rights and souvenir and all those things
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that to the American people
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to find a way to get back to work,
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so they can give us some entertainment.
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Because I think the American people really need that love,
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and having some of those things back.
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You think we might finish the baseball season
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with play but empty stands?
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I do, I think that baseball maybe Larry,
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if we got to the postseason,
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we might be able to have some fans in the postseason.
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But I think when we begin this summer, we will not.
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And finally in the NFL, they gonna have a season?
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Boy, I believe they will.
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I think it's gonna be very hard to not have an NFL season.
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But we think that there may be some fans
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in the stands by then,
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I think there might be some therapeutics by then
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to be able to have some folks in the stands.
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And hopefully, we'll be able to do that.
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Alright, one more thing Chris--
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You got it.
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Who do you like this year in the National Football League?
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Larry you know, I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan--
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I know, why?
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And we got CeeDee Lamb,
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well, Roger Staubach is what made me a Dallas Cowboy.
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Oh my God.
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I fell in love with Captain America,
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and became a fan of America's team ever since then.
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But we got CeeDee Lamb from Oklahoma,
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that great wide receiver in the draft.
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This is gonna be a team, with him and with Zeke Elliott,
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and Dak Prescott,
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this team's gonna put a lot of points on the board Larry.
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I think you might be seeing the return
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of America's team in 2020.
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There you heard it.
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Thanks again Governor,
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always great talking to you.
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Larry, it is always an honor and a pleasure
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to be on the show with you,
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and being interviewed by you
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is being interviewed by a real pro my friend,
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so thank you very much.
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We thank Governor Christie for his time today,
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and we thank you for joining me
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on this edition of Politicking.
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