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On "Larry King Now,"
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basketball star,
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Lamar Odom!
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I just wanted to
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speak my truth.
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Let people know my testimony.
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And if I can help, and heal people at the same time,
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why not?
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Khloe is extremely strong.
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And when I woke up, she was there with
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me when I couldn't walk, couldn't talk.
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She wiped my (bleep) even.
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I mean, besides having children,
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that was the best
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time of--
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Oh, you dug it?
my adult life really.
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Yeah?
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Yeah, being the Black Kardashian.
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(laughter)
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Having the red carpet rolled out for
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you everywhere you go.
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Plus,
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Lucky for me, for that 12-year-old kid.
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He had basketball.
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So, at this stage
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in my life,
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I'm trying to lean back
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on basketball a little bit more
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to get me through some tough times.
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That's next on Larry King Now.
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Hey, folks, welcome to Larry King Now.
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I'm Dennis Miller filling in for Larry.
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My guest today is basketball superstar, Lamar Odom.
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Lamar played for the Los Angeles Lakers.
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Also the Clips.
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He won the NBA Championship with
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the Laker team in 2009,
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2010.
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Married to Khloe Kardashian from '09 to '016.
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Became known for stories
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in the tabloids which he's come forth
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with and incredibly,
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his perspective on these stories,
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an incredibly candid memoir.
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Lamar is telling his whole story
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for the first time,
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his own words.
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He's holding nothing back
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in his memoir, "Darkness
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"to Light."
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And it's currently available online
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and in stores.
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Big man, good to see you.
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You too, bro.
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I gotta talk a little ball for a second--
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Yeah.
before we,
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You always had
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the beautiful game, man.
Thank you.
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I remember when Irving,
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that one year, when the Captain got
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knocked down in finals against Philly.
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I guess Irving, had to step
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into the center thing.
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Yeah.
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Magic, that one year, he threw down like 45--
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Yeah, his rookie year.
and 15--
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That was his rookie year.
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Yeah, it was a thing of beauty.
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And I always thought you were
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a five position player like that, man.
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I always tried to personify
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my game after Magic Johnson.
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He's a player that I looked up
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to the most growing up.
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Yeah, well, I remember him bodying up down low.
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It might have even been against (mumbles)
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I can't remember.
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But I always, you always had
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a nice, low post game too,
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Yeah, thanks a lot.
So I always dug it.
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Good to handle.
You, too.
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And good to see ya, baby.
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You look healthy.
Thanks a lot.
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You've been through a lot.
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Your candid.
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A lot of it's your own making.
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Why did you feel,
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I assume that you're sober, clean?
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I am.
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a little more--
I am.
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by testifying, right?
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Yeah, I'm happy,
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I just wanted to speak my truth,
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let people know my testimony.
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And if I can help, and heal people
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at the same time,
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why not?
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At some point, you gotta go out and say to
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people, hey, look how low this can lay you.
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You gotta give a heads up to people.
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Yeah, if I can overcome that and then,
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and give strength to people,
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then maybe that's my calling.
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You seem to me, that you had
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a parallel track
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and that is an unhealthy, parallel track
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when you're mixing sex and, with drugs.
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I think you've said over the years
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that
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Yeah, when I thought of--
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orgasm.
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(laughs) It's like, that's when
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you know that you're hooked
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on something when
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you get to the point
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where the orgasm has to be augmented.
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Yeah.
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When you're chasing that dragon.
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This orgasms not good enough?
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(laughs) Yeah.
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I have to put an accelerant on it.
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That's right.
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That's when you know
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that's you've gone down a bad path.
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Now, I was enamored, all these years.
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And let's face facts,
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in some odd way in our
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culture,
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the Kardashians have filled up
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a,
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a vessel,
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for young girls projecting
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and they're
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so famous
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that their fame now just seems to
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be a fact of life.
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I actually watched the show one night when
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I heard I was going to be interviewing you.
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I said, I know he's married to Khloe.
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I had never watched that show.
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They're up in Montecito for a weekend thing.
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And you forget, these are just people.
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You know what I mean?
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They get so famous.
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And that name becomes--
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really crazy is that,
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I never really,
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well, before doing
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the reality show,
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I never was really into it.
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And it was always crazy to me how
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people really felt like they knew me.
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Just from watching at that basketball.
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But it was different from knowing me then
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just from watching me play basketball.
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It was like,
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no,
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that's Lammy.
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That was the nickname
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that they called me on the reality show.
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Like, they really felt like they knew me.
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And it's crazy how just people
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just identify with them.
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She stayed the course with you, man.
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I was touched--
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when you had your seizures
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and all that.
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12 strokes and six heart attacks.
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Jesus, Lamar, you must have,
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how loaded were you that--
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and what were you mixing then?
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I don't know, man.
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I didn't do drugs that night.
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Dennis, that's what's kind of crazy.
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But, yeah, Khloe is extremely strong.
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And when I woke up,
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she was there with me
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when I couldn't walk, or couldn't talk.
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She wiped my ass even.
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So I owe her for that, forever.
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Well, listen, anybody can answer the call when
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you're on a red carpet,
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or you and her are front-running.
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That's the woman
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you want, man.
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You wake up, and
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they tell you listen,
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my man, can't even do
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the basic functions,
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and she's there.
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She's a good woman.
So God bless her for that.
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That's right.
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What's that family?
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What's the family like?
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But I watched Kim with Kanye, she's--
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Yeah, well you gotta understand.
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If you think about
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what they've been through,
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with the OJ thing and
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Kim
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with
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her tape.
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I think every American family could learn
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something for their family,
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because they do everything together.
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They roll with each other,
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and have each other's back,
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no matter what.
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Yeah, that was the episode I saw.
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They were up in Montecito
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for a girls weekend.
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Kim and (mumbles)
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Kendall?
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And then it was also her middle sister.
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I remember thinking,
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this is the real deal 'cause they're
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out having fun together, right?
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I thought, they're just, people, so.
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But, they're strong as hell, man.
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I think everybody,
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I think we can all learn from them.
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What, you know I almost feel like,
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you feel like you're candid.
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And it's great when you're being candid.
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And the book, once again, is
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"A Memoir of Darkness to Light."
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I like it when people open themselves up.
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But I don't want to seem like I'm air-dropping
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in on this, brother, and puttin' you on the spot.
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What are your feelings about her now?
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Do you feel, is that your biggest guilt now
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in a way,
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that you hurt her?
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one of them.
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One of my biggest guilts.
Yeah, and I
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don't wanna sound like--
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No, it's okay, it's all right.
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But one of my biggest guilts is,
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that when I came up out of the coma.
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And she was doing all this for me.
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Because of where I was at rehabilitation-wise,
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I wasn't able to express
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how much empathy
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I had towards her
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or express my true feelings,
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how I was feeling at that time.
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If I was able to do that,
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she would probably still be my wife, right now.
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But just because of where I was at,
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that I just learned how to walk and talk again,
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and get my own thoughts together.
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I couldn't really express myself.
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So I kinda wish that
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that I healed faster in a way,
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but everything happens for a reason.
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Well, I certainly remember thinking,
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there must be a lot more there than
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that I, or anybody, pretends to know about.
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Because it was not a road-runner cloud heading off
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into the distance
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when you hit bottom, man.
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She was there, and I remember thinking,
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all right,
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there's so much more, here,
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between these people--
Yeah, no, she
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stuck with me.
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But when you marry someone
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after knowing them 30 days,
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and there was no bs to our relationship.
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Then you accept people for who they are.
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Like, she did me, and I did her.
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I think you have a love
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that potentially was never gonna work.
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I don't know, brother.
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Do you ever have it in your head
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that you'd still like to be married again?
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You know, people do get back together.
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I don't, we'll--
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Oh, me and her?
See this is tough
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for me to ask, man.
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No, me and her?
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Yeah, it sounds like
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your still--
You'd probably
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would have to ask her.
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(Dennis laughs)
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You know what, I mean, yeah,
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of course, I'm open to it,
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but you probably have,
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that'd probably be a question,
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a better question
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to ask her.
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All I know is this,
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the first thing she's gotta
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know, and I shoulda asked ya.
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You're sober today, right?
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That's right.
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How long you've been doing it, man?
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What's your chip?
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Or, where are you at?
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Ah, I don't have a chip, bro.
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I just live day-to-day, man.
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I'm just,
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and search for that happy place, man.
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That's it.
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Yeah, you should be proud of that.
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You should get a chip, though, man.
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Yeah.
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Be proud of that.
(Dennis drowns out Lamar)
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Her and my kids, man,
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And myself, living for my kids and myself.
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(upbeat music)
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When we return, Lamar talks about life
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on the basketball court,
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his early days,
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and hiding his addiction.
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Lamar's book "From Darkness to Light,
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currently available in stores, online.
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You're watching "Larry King Now."
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We'll be right back.
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(upbeat music)
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Hey, welcome back to "Larry King Now."
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I'm Dennis Miller, filling in for Larry.
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I guess you had hard times from the get-go.
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Your father, a heroin addict, right?
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Yeah, and my mother passed away
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when I was 12.
Does it--
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A kid does, I don't even,
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listen, a kid might not even know
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what a heroin addict means
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when he's that young.
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Kinda, they know, in the general.
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Losing you mum, though, man.
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Yeah, that was pretty tough.
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That was pretty tough.
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I think with that,
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I think that,
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and the death of
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my,
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my son.
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Your son, yeah.
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Yeah, I think I'm probably
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still healing from those two.
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Those are the biggest sucker punches
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life can throw you.
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Yeah.
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Tell me about your mum a little, man.
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Yeah, my mom was a great lady.
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What was the name, so I can put a name
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to it.
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Her name was Cathy.
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Cathy.
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Yeah, her smile was contagious.
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Yeah?
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Yeah, her personality was, too.
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From a little boy looking up at that,
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and then all of a sudden--
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She's missed daily
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by me and the rest of our family.
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You still talk to her though?
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Always.
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Yeah, me too.
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I lost my mom.
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When I go down to the church--
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Oh, yeah?
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I just, I do some of the,
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to the one statue of God,
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(mumbles).
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Then I go over to the other side
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and talk to my mom.
Yeah.
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I always do.
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Yeah.
Always do.
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And your father?
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What was the--
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Well he was--
What happened to your dad?
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He was a heroin addict.
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And, you know,
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if you can't take care of yourself,
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you can't take care of a child.
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So, until he got himself together,
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that's when, I would,
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the relationship started to get stronger.
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Losing your son--
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Yeah, that's like the--
(Dennis mumbles)
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That's the hardest card life can deal ya.
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The opposite of life cycles.
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Our kids are supposed to bury us.
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We're not supposed to bury our kids.
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So,
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that was hard.
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I know that nobody's supposed
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to pay it off
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by running themself into an early grave.
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But, certainly,
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you've had enough things, man.
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You must know that you were
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either gonna have
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to find some sort absolute truth,
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some sort of Christ,
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some sort of addiction, ball, something.
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Because you got dealt
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some of the hardest cards
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that life can deal to ya.
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Yeah, well--
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Guess what?
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You were supposed to be traumatized.
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Yeah, lucky
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for me
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for that 12-year-old kid.
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He had basketball.
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You know, so,
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at this stage in my life,
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from trying to lean back
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on basketball a little bit more
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to get me through some tough times.
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Well, you had the beautiful game, man.
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Like I said, you had a lot of tools
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for a big man.
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I'm trying to think where you play.
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I know that Captain played at Power Memorial
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when he was young--
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Yeah, I went to Christ the King in New York City.
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Oh, you did?
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Yeah, that's where you started, Christ the King
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University is what I call it.
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Did you guys ever throw down on those
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village courts
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on 6th Avenue, down there?
All the time, all the time.
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(laughing) That's where you see some ball.
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Yeah, hell yeah, and that's where I set
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(mumbles)
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single
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game,
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C-H-S-A-A record.
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It was my sophomore year for 35 points
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in the championship game.
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That gave you bona fide (mumbles).
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Yeah, it did.
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You must have been the guy.
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I definitely did.
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I used to love when The Pearl
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would come in to New York.
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And he'd go against Bill Bradley uptown.
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They'd play in a Y somewhere (tap) (tap) up there.
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You had (tap)
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I don't even think Pearl is a,
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I don't think think his name was Pearl.
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And then the community, I think,
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was the Black Jesus,
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or something--
Yeah, oh, yeah,
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the Black Jesus, right.
Yeah.
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That's why New York City basketball's so special
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'cause you could just pick up basketball
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anywhere and find good games.
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So, from 12 to 20, I'm trying to think,
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you're healing up,
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you've lost your mom,
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and basketball, pretty much, has given
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you your self-esteem, right?
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Yeah.
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Your identity?
Yeah, yeah.
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But that's when
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you're famous.
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And then that's where drugs came involved
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like when I was around 24.
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That's when I started
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messing around.
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Yeah, and before you know it,
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when you're young,
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and you don't have a perspective on it,
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you're too far down the road,
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you're too far in to get out of it
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on your own almost.
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Yeah, you got all that money.
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Right then and there,
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you're probably talking to God,
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not listening to 'em.
(Dennis laughs)
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And that's one of our biggest mistakes,
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not listening to God.
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(upbeat music)
After the break, we get
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to know Lamar a little better with round of
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"If You Only Knew."
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His book is "Darkness to Light: A Memoir."
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And it's currently available
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in stores and online.
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Sometimes, the most soft-spoken men
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can print the most eloquent.
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And, indeed, our guest today,
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a soft-spoken man.
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Stay right there, we'll be right back
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with Lamar Odom.
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(upbeat music)
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Hey, welcome back to "Larry King Now."
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I'm Dennis Miller, filling in for Larry.
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Our guest today, he's on this 56th interview today,
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(Lamar laughs)
about to break Joe DiMaggio's
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record.
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And my guest is basketball star, Lamar Odom.
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His new book, got it right here.
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My man lookin' handsome on the cover.
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"Darkness to Light:
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"A Memoir."
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We play a little segment, here, on the show.
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I guess this is Larry's thing.
521
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But I've been lucky enough
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they pass on to me.
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I just ask you some quick Rorschach questions,
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and you react.
525
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You were always quick with the ball, baby,
526
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beautiful first step.
527
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Who had the biggest cross-over ever, Timmy Hardaway?
528
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Yeah, Timmy Hardaway, and Allen Iverson.
529
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Yeah (laughs), indomitable.
Yeah, yeah.
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Man, (mumbles) and 6-1 going
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into the lane,
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against the big man.
(Dennis drowns out Lamar)
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He gave not one (beep), man
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Yeah, man, he was tough.
I'm goin' in. (laughs)
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He was tough.
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You've seen the special on him, right?
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There's a documentary,
538
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you gotta watch, Lamar.
Yeah.
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Well, I mean, you lived to play with The Captain.
540
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Yeah, he has a 1,000 of 'em, though.
541
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I've seen them, though.
542
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Yeah.
So.
543
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Guilty pleasure,
544
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what's Lamar Odom's guilty pleasure?
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I'll say a Big Mac.
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There you go, Lamar with a Big Mac here and there.
547
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It's that middle bun that gets you.
548
00:14:23.489 --> 00:14:24.829 line:15%
Yeah, it is the middle bun.
549
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You think it's the sauce,
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but it's the middle bun, baby.
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Strangest fan encounter,
552
00:14:28.666 --> 00:14:31.398 line:15%
might be lighting a fuse, here.
553
00:14:31.398 --> 00:14:32.792
Oh,
554
00:14:32.792 --> 00:14:33.625
strangest
555
00:14:33.625 --> 00:14:35.106
fan encounter?
556
00:14:35.106 --> 00:14:36.715
They feel like they know you, like you said,
557
00:14:36.715 --> 00:14:37.548
right, Lamar?
558
00:14:37.548 --> 00:14:41.433
I think all the times fans come up to me,
559
00:14:41.433 --> 00:14:42.870
and try to remember,
560
00:14:42.870 --> 00:14:43.931
try to get me to remember
561
00:14:43.931 --> 00:14:45.003
the last time
562
00:14:45.003 --> 00:14:45.836
that I met them,
563
00:14:45.836 --> 00:14:46.747
or the first time I met them.
564
00:14:46.747 --> 00:14:47.580
Right.
565
00:14:47.580 --> 00:14:48.413
It's always strange to me.
566
00:14:48.413 --> 00:14:49.811
Oh, and people come up to you and, like,
567
00:14:49.811 --> 00:14:52.424
"Say hi to this person that's on the phone."
568
00:14:52.424 --> 00:14:53.707
Like, that's weird.
569
00:14:53.707 --> 00:14:54.788
I don't know,
570
00:14:54.788 --> 00:14:56.328
the moment's supposed to be a caprice,
571
00:14:56.328 --> 00:14:57.903
a ship that go bump in the night.
572
00:14:57.903 --> 00:15:00.184
And if you shut it down, and go, I don't even
573
00:15:00.184 --> 00:15:01.219
know this person, it gets too real.
574
00:15:01.219 --> 00:15:02.052
You're almost better going,
575
00:15:02.052 --> 00:15:03.144
hey Eddie, goodnight!
576
00:15:03.144 --> 00:15:04.004
(laughs) Yeah.
577
00:15:04.004 --> 00:15:05.562
And you keep moving.
578
00:15:05.562 --> 00:15:07.712
Best basketball player right now,
579
00:15:07.712 --> 00:15:08.545
I might be watching
580
00:15:08.545 --> 00:15:09.378
him in the series.
581
00:15:09.378 --> 00:15:12.295
Best basketball player right now,
582
00:15:15.096 --> 00:15:16.230
In uniform or out?
583
00:15:16.230 --> 00:15:17.816
Kawhi Leonard, right now.
Yeah, that's what
584
00:15:17.816 --> 00:15:18.649
I was just thinking.
That's easy, right there,
585
00:15:18.649 --> 00:15:19.807
Kawhi.
And my man's got
586
00:15:19.807 --> 00:15:20.783
that easy manner.
587
00:15:20.783 --> 00:15:21.985
He does not come up abrupt.
588
00:15:21.985 --> 00:15:22.818
Yeah.
589
00:15:22.818 --> 00:15:23.651
I love how he can, sort of,
590
00:15:23.651 --> 00:15:26.638
takes his time.
Yeah, the way he plays,
591
00:15:26.638 --> 00:15:28.529
I think it's like the
592
00:15:28.529 --> 00:15:29.362
most
593
00:15:29.362 --> 00:15:30.195
similar
594
00:15:30.195 --> 00:15:32.456
to Kobe and Jordan that I've seen.
595
00:15:32.456 --> 00:15:33.289
Killers.
Yeah.
596
00:15:33.289 --> 00:15:35.600
And they're not gonna waste time on histrionics.
597
00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:36.490
Strike killers, right.
598
00:15:36.490 --> 00:15:38.337
Yeah, it's like, Kobe's,
599
00:15:38.337 --> 00:15:39.927
you'll go over and play these games,
600
00:15:39.927 --> 00:15:40.798
Yeah.
601
00:15:40.798 --> 00:15:43.394
I'm gonna body up, spin,
A (murmurs) gettin'
602
00:15:43.394 --> 00:15:44.529
the ball out, just really good,
603
00:15:44.529 --> 00:15:46.079
really, good.
(Dennis laughs)
604
00:15:46.079 --> 00:15:47.514
I always love guys like that.
605
00:15:47.514 --> 00:15:49.573
It's like Jim Brown, you see the old footage
606
00:15:49.573 --> 00:15:51.344
of Jim, and those news reels
607
00:15:51.344 --> 00:15:52.515
from old NFL games.
608
00:15:52.515 --> 00:15:53.969
Everybody, you know,
609
00:15:53.969 --> 00:15:54.802
people were spiking it,
610
00:15:54.802 --> 00:15:56.090
or, you know, Jim Brown would get up
611
00:15:56.090 --> 00:15:57.164
and (murmurs)--
Touchdown.
612
00:15:57.164 --> 00:15:58.094
the ref on.
613
00:15:58.094 --> 00:15:58.927
Just give him the ball.
614
00:15:58.927 --> 00:16:00.244
Barry Sanders used to do the same thing.
615
00:16:00.244 --> 00:16:01.327
He never celebrated
616
00:16:01.327 --> 00:16:02.160
when he scored a touchdown.
617
00:16:02.160 --> 00:16:04.790
Yeah, that's the guy who freaks you out.
618
00:16:04.790 --> 00:16:08.230
Greatest player of all time, interesting one.
619
00:16:08.230 --> 00:16:09.462
Oh.
620
00:16:09.462 --> 00:16:10.390
'Cause the centers are almost
621
00:16:10.390 --> 00:16:11.364
a different game, you know?
622
00:16:11.364 --> 00:16:12.197
Yeah.
623
00:16:12.197 --> 00:16:13.241
Let's do it in two levels,
624
00:16:13.241 --> 00:16:14.465
greatest center you've ever seen?
625
00:16:14.465 --> 00:16:18.343
I get two, Shaquille O'Neal, and Hakeem Olajuwon.
626
00:16:18.343 --> 00:16:20.512
The dream was beautiful.
627
00:16:20.512 --> 00:16:21.504
Yeah, I guess 'cause
628
00:16:21.504 --> 00:16:23.048
they were the ying and the yang.
629
00:16:23.048 --> 00:16:23.953
Just centers.
630
00:16:23.953 --> 00:16:26.829
And the greatest player of all time,
631
00:16:26.829 --> 00:16:28.075
I would say, probably, Michael Jordan,
632
00:16:28.075 --> 00:16:31.538
yeah, 'cause overall impact on the sport.
633
00:16:31.538 --> 00:16:34.064
I still think of Jordan,
634
00:16:34.064 --> 00:16:34.963
when they said they were worried about,
635
00:16:34.963 --> 00:16:36.553
somebody on the other team said
636
00:16:36.553 --> 00:16:38.373
they were worried about his free throws,
637
00:16:38.373 --> 00:16:39.306
and he shut his eyes
638
00:16:39.306 --> 00:16:40.218
and he nailed two.
Yeah, with his eyes closed,
639
00:16:40.218 --> 00:16:41.051
right?
I remember thinking
640
00:16:41.051 --> 00:16:43.248
that is the coldest CIA move
(Dennis drowns out Lamar)
641
00:16:43.248 --> 00:16:44.081
I've ever seen.
642
00:16:44.081 --> 00:16:45.561
Yeah, that was tough, that was tough.
643
00:16:45.561 --> 00:16:46.740
You gotta be a tough (beep)
644
00:16:46.740 --> 00:16:47.951
to shoot with your eyes closed.
645
00:16:47.951 --> 00:16:50.723
(laughing) That's why
646
00:16:50.723 --> 00:16:52.714
it was Michael's, that's why his silhouette's now
647
00:16:52.714 --> 00:16:53.579
There's only two silhouettes,
648
00:16:53.579 --> 00:16:55.059
and now, and one of 'ems
649
00:16:55.059 --> 00:16:57.301
Jerry West on the NBA thing.
Michael Jordan, right.
650
00:16:57.301 --> 00:16:58.606
And one of 'ems MJ, man.
651
00:16:58.606 --> 00:17:00.973
All around the world you hold up
652
00:17:00.973 --> 00:17:01.806
a silhouette of you.
653
00:17:01.806 --> 00:17:02.639
And people know.
654
00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:04.255
That's when you know you did your job.
655
00:17:04.255 --> 00:17:05.088
Biggest risk you've ever taken?
656
00:17:05.088 --> 00:17:05.921
Eh.
657
00:17:05.921 --> 00:17:07.439
Gettin' married after a month when you think
658
00:17:07.439 --> 00:17:08.326
you love the woman,
659
00:17:08.326 --> 00:17:09.159
that's a good thing.
660
00:17:09.159 --> 00:17:09.992
That's a good one.
661
00:17:09.992 --> 00:17:10.825
Yeah that was a,
662
00:17:10.825 --> 00:17:11.658
yeah.
663
00:17:11.658 --> 00:17:13.562
I think that just violated talk-show etiquette
664
00:17:13.562 --> 00:17:14.963
asking you that,
Naw, that was--
665
00:17:14.963 --> 00:17:15.796
to say that now.
666
00:17:15.796 --> 00:17:18.296
No, when I knew I loved the woman.
667
00:17:18.296 --> 00:17:20.667
Well, you gotta say that's steppin'
668
00:17:20.667 --> 00:17:22.347
in to take the charge, baby.
669
00:17:22.347 --> 00:17:23.428
Biggest regret?
670
00:17:23.428 --> 00:17:25.285
Not lovin' a woman the right way.
671
00:17:25.285 --> 00:17:27.021
Knowing what you know now,
672
00:17:27.021 --> 00:17:28.043
what would you say to
673
00:17:28.043 --> 00:17:29.914
your younger self?
674
00:17:29.914 --> 00:17:32.164
Don't go to that brothel.
675
00:17:33.195 --> 00:17:34.036
(laughing)
676
00:17:34.036 --> 00:17:36.169
There's a t-shirt.
677
00:17:36.169 --> 00:17:37.311
Don't go to that brothel,
678
00:17:37.311 --> 00:17:38.829
that's a great t-shirt.
Especially on
679
00:17:38.829 --> 00:17:40.390
bobblehead night.
Yeah!
680
00:17:40.390 --> 00:17:42.435
Don't go to that brothel.
681
00:17:42.435 --> 00:17:45.108
Something we should be paying more attention to?
682
00:17:45.108 --> 00:17:49.346
I guess testifying now, right?
The way policemen are
683
00:17:49.346 --> 00:17:51.989
treating Black men in America.
684
00:17:51.989 --> 00:17:54.100
Gotta stop that.
685
00:17:54.100 --> 00:17:55.542
Give me some specifics.
686
00:17:55.542 --> 00:17:57.042
What if I told you
687
00:17:58.323 --> 00:17:59.838
that there are
688
00:17:59.838 --> 00:18:00.790
a lot of policemen
689
00:18:00.790 --> 00:18:01.623
who think that, too, right?
690
00:18:01.623 --> 00:18:03.626
You know that there's some bad cops out there.
691
00:18:03.626 --> 00:18:05.811
But most of the cops would nod in agreement
692
00:18:05.811 --> 00:18:06.644
with you and go,
693
00:18:06.644 --> 00:18:07.995
"Yeah, we gotta quit doing that."
694
00:18:07.995 --> 00:18:09.895
Yeah, but the cops that I'm agreeing with.
695
00:18:09.895 --> 00:18:11.122
All right, there you go.
Let's stop that.
696
00:18:11.122 --> 00:18:13.802
Person you would trade places with for a day?
697
00:18:13.802 --> 00:18:15.725
I always wanted to be president for a day,
698
00:18:15.725 --> 00:18:17.144
so I would say, Donald Trump.
699
00:18:17.144 --> 00:18:19.219
There you go,
700
00:18:19.219 --> 00:18:20.391
(laughs) Brother, you got nothing to comb over.
701
00:18:20.391 --> 00:18:22.578
(laughing)
702
00:18:22.578 --> 00:18:25.290
You'd have to comb, you'd have to get a sub head
703
00:18:25.290 --> 00:18:26.293
to bring hair in to go--
704
00:18:26.293 --> 00:18:27.628
I always thought that was a wig, too,
705
00:18:27.628 --> 00:18:28.461
that he was wearing.
706
00:18:28.461 --> 00:18:29.381
Me, too, until I saw him get
707
00:18:29.381 --> 00:18:30.351
off the course yesterday.
It's crazy.
708
00:18:30.351 --> 00:18:33.004
So I seen him do the bucket challenge.
709
00:18:33.004 --> 00:18:34.237
I was like, oh (beep).
710
00:18:34.237 --> 00:18:36.821
He's actually got a decent haircut under it,
711
00:18:36.821 --> 00:18:38.104
I don't know what he's doing with the--
712
00:18:38.104 --> 00:18:38.937
I don't know why
713
00:18:38.937 --> 00:18:39.770
he's choosing that
Mr. Softee cone--
714
00:18:39.770 --> 00:18:40.844
Yeah, I'm not in--
thing, man, you gotta--.
715
00:18:40.844 --> 00:18:41.677
to that either.
716
00:18:41.677 --> 00:18:42.971
Jeez,
Yeah,
717
00:18:42.971 --> 00:18:43.805
I'm not into that.
718
00:18:43.805 --> 00:18:44.638
It looks like the Ocean Spray
719
00:18:44.638 --> 00:18:47.376
cranberry juice cocktail logo, baby.
720
00:18:47.376 --> 00:18:48.209
I'm not into that.
721
00:18:48.209 --> 00:18:51.845
Animal you wish you could talk to?
722
00:18:51.845 --> 00:18:53.078
A lion.
723
00:18:53.078 --> 00:18:56.659
All right, well, you're being called
724
00:18:56.659 --> 00:18:58.140
on to have the heart of one, now, man.
725
00:18:58.140 --> 00:18:59.106
Have you ever been to Africa?
726
00:18:59.106 --> 00:19:00.800
No, gotta go to that place,
Once you see
727
00:19:00.800 --> 00:19:02.466
your first lion.
right?
728
00:19:02.466 --> 00:19:03.299
I'm tellin' you, man.
729
00:19:03.299 --> 00:19:04.522
You go down, I go on a safari.
730
00:19:04.522 --> 00:19:05.374
And you're thinking,
731
00:19:05.374 --> 00:19:07.213
"Well, okay, this is gonna be manufactured, or,
732
00:19:07.213 --> 00:19:09.166
you pull around a corner.
733
00:19:09.166 --> 00:19:11.455
And there's five of them eating this thing.
734
00:19:11.455 --> 00:19:12.959
And they're just looking at you, like, this.
735
00:19:12.959 --> 00:19:14.593
The cat says--
Like, don't you (beep).
736
00:19:14.593 --> 00:19:16.826
Yeah, he says, stay in the silhouette of the car
737
00:19:16.826 --> 00:19:17.659
and you're safe.
Yeah.
738
00:19:17.659 --> 00:19:18.923
Don't put your hand out, or I'll,
739
00:19:18.923 --> 00:19:19.756
You know what I mean?
740
00:19:19.756 --> 00:19:20.769
They see the car,
741
00:19:20.769 --> 00:19:21.644
and they're used to it.
742
00:19:21.644 --> 00:19:22.782
But if you went like this,
743
00:19:22.782 --> 00:19:24.219
it'd be batshit.
744
00:19:24.219 --> 00:19:25.317
They'd go crazy.
745
00:19:25.317 --> 00:19:26.267
But the first time you see it,
746
00:19:26.267 --> 00:19:27.399
you go, this is so trippy.
747
00:19:27.399 --> 00:19:29.042
'Cause I always think of it as
748
00:19:29.042 --> 00:19:29.875
the Lion King.
749
00:19:29.875 --> 00:19:30.708
When you first see 'em, man.
750
00:19:30.708 --> 00:19:32.852
They play rough down there.
Yeah, I think I will bug out
751
00:19:32.852 --> 00:19:34.652
if I seen a (murmurs)
(Dennis drowns out Lamar)
752
00:19:34.652 --> 00:19:35.865
You gotta go.
that close to me.
753
00:19:35.865 --> 00:19:38.324
Worst piece of advice you ever received?
754
00:19:38.324 --> 00:19:39.773
Don't go to the NBA.
755
00:19:39.773 --> 00:19:41.183
You went in young, right?
756
00:19:41.183 --> 00:19:42.368
Yeah, I was 19.
757
00:19:42.368 --> 00:19:43.423
Jesus, Lamar.
758
00:19:43.423 --> 00:19:44.256
Yeah.
759
00:19:44.256 --> 00:19:46.026
If you could do one thing over,
760
00:19:46.026 --> 00:19:47.443
what would it be?
761
00:19:50.970 --> 00:19:52.643
I would take my SAT.
762
00:19:52.643 --> 00:19:53.554
Yeah.
763
00:19:53.554 --> 00:19:55.441
Yeah, I had a 1040, brother, so.
764
00:19:55.441 --> 00:19:56.274
Yeah.
765
00:19:56.274 --> 00:19:57.107
It's humbling.
766
00:19:57.107 --> 00:19:57.940
Yeah.
767
00:19:57.940 --> 00:20:01.084
Trust me, I did good in language skills.
768
00:20:01.084 --> 00:20:03.445
But, man, I had math skills,
769
00:20:03.445 --> 00:20:05.203
They asked me if I got hit
(Dennis drowns out Lamar)
770
00:20:05.203 --> 00:20:06.644
in the head with a wrecking ball,
771
00:20:06.644 --> 00:20:08.310
my math skills were so bad.
772
00:20:08.310 --> 00:20:09.630
Stranded on a desert island,
773
00:20:09.630 --> 00:20:12.743
what three things would you want with you?
774
00:20:12.743 --> 00:20:13.869
The rock!
775
00:20:13.869 --> 00:20:14.921
Yeah!
776
00:20:14.921 --> 00:20:16.536
On a desert island?
777
00:20:16.536 --> 00:20:17.939
Oh,
778
00:20:17.939 --> 00:20:19.490
something to eat.
779
00:20:19.490 --> 00:20:22.046
Yeah, of course, the Bic Mac from the earlier question.
780
00:20:22.046 --> 00:20:22.934
Water.
781
00:20:22.934 --> 00:20:24.851
You gotta have water.
782
00:20:26.574 --> 00:20:27.913
And a companion.
783
00:20:27.913 --> 00:20:30.002
(click), boom cac cac cac dome,
784
00:20:30.002 --> 00:20:31.677
bomp bomp bomp bomp,
785
00:20:31.677 --> 00:20:32.510
bom bom bom.
786
00:20:32.510 --> 00:20:34.101
Proudest accomplishment?
787
00:20:34.101 --> 00:20:35.297
I think I know this one, man.
788
00:20:35.297 --> 00:20:36.715
You might be in the midst of it, right?
789
00:20:36.715 --> 00:20:37.556
Right now?
790
00:20:37.556 --> 00:20:39.291
Yeah, overcoming addiction, and I would say,
791
00:20:39.291 --> 00:20:40.124
my children.
792
00:20:40.124 --> 00:20:41.849
And being married, I would say,
793
00:20:41.849 --> 00:20:42.682
maybe three.
(upbeat music)
794
00:20:42.682 --> 00:20:43.996
Our final moments, Lamar Odom will answer
795
00:20:43.996 --> 00:20:45.961
a few of your questions from social media.
796
00:20:45.961 --> 00:20:46.811
Stay right there.
797
00:20:46.811 --> 00:20:47.644
We'll be right back on this edition
798
00:20:47.644 --> 00:20:49.311
of "Larry King Now."
799
00:20:50.869 --> 00:20:51.702
(upbeat music)
800
00:20:51.702 --> 00:20:53.673
Welcome back to "Larry King Now."
801
00:20:53.673 --> 00:20:56.231
I'm Dennis Miller filling in for Larry.
802
00:20:56.231 --> 00:20:58.129
Basketball star, Lamar Odom.
803
00:20:58.129 --> 00:21:00.211
He's been busting his ass selling this book.
804
00:21:00.211 --> 00:21:03.489
The book is "Darkness to Light: A Memoir."
805
00:21:03.489 --> 00:21:04.322
And,
806
00:21:05.832 --> 00:21:07.383
amazingly candid in this.
807
00:21:07.383 --> 00:21:08.905
I guess it's part of the healing, yeah, man.
808
00:21:08.905 --> 00:21:10.381
You gotta cauterize that wound.
809
00:21:10.381 --> 00:21:12.854
Listen, we knock these questions out
810
00:21:12.854 --> 00:21:14.933
from some fans, and you can go hit the rack,
811
00:21:14.933 --> 00:21:15.842
watch a little hockey.
812
00:21:15.842 --> 00:21:18.257
'Cause I know the brothers love the hockey.
813
00:21:18.257 --> 00:21:20.284
Naw, we don't do anything
(Dennis laughs)
814
00:21:20.284 --> 00:21:21.769
in the cold besides a little bit of football.
815
00:21:21.769 --> 00:21:23.810
(laughing)
816
00:21:23.810 --> 00:21:26.890 line:15%
All right, this is from @mogomatsil.
817
00:21:26.890 --> 00:21:29.549 line:15%
Jesus, that used to be my CB handle on Twitter.
818
00:21:29.549 --> 00:21:30.690 line:15%
Are you,
819
00:21:30.690 --> 00:21:31.881 line:15%
well, are you afraid to relapse?
820
00:21:31.881 --> 00:21:36.048 line:15%
I'm afraid of the consequences and repercussions
821
00:21:37.307 --> 00:21:38.877 line:15%
of relapsing.
822
00:21:38.877 --> 00:21:40.080 line:15%
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
823
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'Cause you looked on, you been at that place
824
00:21:42.248 --> 00:21:43.394 line:15%
where you see the light at the other end
825
00:21:43.394 --> 00:21:45.679 line:15%
of the tunnel, and it's the oncoming train.
826
00:21:45.679 --> 00:21:46.512 line:15%
I don't wanna be that paranoid again.
827
00:21:46.512 --> 00:21:48.306
I'm not cool about that.
828
00:21:48.306 --> 00:21:52.232
It's tiring, you know, tired of being tired, brother.
829
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@positivepax on Twitter,
830
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Do you currently
831
00:21:55.272 --> 00:21:56.105 line:15%
have
832
00:21:56.105 --> 00:21:56.985 line:15%
a TV show
833
00:21:56.985 --> 00:21:59.235 line:15%
that you're binge-watching?
834
00:22:01.140 --> 00:22:01.973 line:15%
No.
835
00:22:01.973 --> 00:22:03.329
No, watch a little "Chernobyl."
836
00:22:03.329 --> 00:22:04.809
You wanna feel good about your life?
837
00:22:04.809 --> 00:22:07.700
Watch that five-episode "Chernobyl" on HBO.
838
00:22:07.700 --> 00:22:08.620
"Chernobyl?"
839
00:22:08.620 --> 00:22:09.453
It doesn't get more brutal.
840
00:22:09.453 --> 00:22:11.141
Brutal, it's about the Chernobyl
841
00:22:11.141 --> 00:22:12.524
nuclear reactor meltdown.
842
00:22:12.524 --> 00:22:15.452
C-H-E-R-N-O-B-Y-L, brutal.
843
00:22:15.452 --> 00:22:16.684
True story?
It's on right now, yeah.
844
00:22:16.684 --> 00:22:17.517
Wow.
845
00:22:17.517 --> 00:22:19.483
And it's amazingly
846
00:22:19.483 --> 00:22:20.324
brutal.
847
00:22:20.324 --> 00:22:22.659
And, by the way, you might not have one you're watching,
848
00:22:22.659 --> 00:22:23.592
but I'm waiting for,
849
00:22:23.592 --> 00:22:24.807
I think I'd get a season if
850
00:22:24.807 --> 00:22:25.640
you got one.
851
00:22:25.640 --> 00:22:27.662
'Cause you had nice, would you ever want to get
852
00:22:27.662 --> 00:22:28.495
into that, again?
853
00:22:28.495 --> 00:22:29.328
Or what kind of taste do you have
854
00:22:29.328 --> 00:22:30.727
in your mouth from reality TV?
855
00:22:30.727 --> 00:22:32.771
That was the best.
856
00:22:32.771 --> 00:22:34.670
I mean, besides having children,
857
00:22:34.670 --> 00:22:36.308
that was the best time--
858
00:22:36.308 --> 00:22:38.453
Oh, you dug it?
in my adult life, really.
859
00:22:38.453 --> 00:22:39.286
Yeah?
860
00:22:39.286 --> 00:22:40.751
Yeah, being the Black Kardashian?
861
00:22:40.751 --> 00:22:42.635
(laughing)
862
00:22:42.635 --> 00:22:43.888
Having the red carpet rolled out
863
00:22:43.888 --> 00:22:46.977
for you everywhere you go.
(Dennis laughs)
864
00:22:46.977 --> 00:22:49.281
As Wesley said, in "Passenger 57,"
865
00:22:49.281 --> 00:22:52.728
"Always, black, always bet on Black Kardashian."
866
00:22:52.728 --> 00:22:54.845
The people that are not basketball fans,
867
00:22:54.845 --> 00:22:57.420
know you, and accept you, and welcome you--
868
00:22:57.420 --> 00:22:58.253
Yeah.
869
00:22:58.253 --> 00:22:59.086
everywhere you go.
870
00:22:59.086 --> 00:22:59.919
It must have been peaceful in a way,
871
00:22:59.919 --> 00:23:00.954
not having everybody judge your wealth
872
00:23:00.954 --> 00:23:01.863
as a human as
873
00:23:01.863 --> 00:23:02.696
on your line,
874
00:23:02.696 --> 00:23:04.895 line:15%
that night's line, well.
That's right.
875
00:23:04.895 --> 00:23:07.660 line:15%
@c2862, on Twitter, how often do you see
876
00:23:07.660 --> 00:23:09.711 line:15%
your kids that live in NYC?
877
00:23:09.711 --> 00:23:10.801 line:15%
Why do you still live in LA?
878
00:23:10.801 --> 00:23:12.226 line:15%
Not enough.
879
00:23:12.226 --> 00:23:13.059 line:15%
Yeah.
880
00:23:13.059 --> 00:23:15.593 line:15%
You know, I've spent most of my adult life, here.
881
00:23:15.593 --> 00:23:16.426
Yeah.
882
00:23:16.426 --> 00:23:17.332
All of my adult life, here.
883
00:23:17.332 --> 00:23:18.731
You miss the city, though, right?
884
00:23:18.731 --> 00:23:19.564
Yeah, I do.
885
00:23:19.564 --> 00:23:21.404 line:15%
@boomelina, Can you believe these names?
886
00:23:21.404 --> 00:23:23.131 line:15%
I don't even know if I'm doing, what I'm doing, here.
887
00:23:23.131 --> 00:23:26.555 line:15%
Who was the best, who was your best athletic coach,
888
00:23:26.555 --> 00:23:27.388 line:15%
and why?
889
00:23:27.388 --> 00:23:28.221 line:15%
I like that question.
890
00:23:28.221 --> 00:23:29.414 line:15%
You had Phil, right?
891
00:23:29.414 --> 00:23:30.793
Yeah, and I had Pat Riley,
892
00:23:30.793 --> 00:23:32.081
but I'm gonna say Pat Riley,
893
00:23:32.081 --> 00:23:34.220
'cause he instilled discipline in me.
894
00:23:34.220 --> 00:23:35.248
Yeah?
895
00:23:35.248 --> 00:23:36.081
Yeah,
896
00:23:36.081 --> 00:23:36.914
my first
897
00:23:37.764 --> 00:23:38.597
step
898
00:23:38.597 --> 00:23:39.755
to manhood was because
899
00:23:39.755 --> 00:23:41.007
of Pat Riley, and the Miami Heat.
900
00:23:41.007 --> 00:23:41.840
Yeah, God bless.
901
00:23:41.840 --> 00:23:42.673
Yeah,
902
00:23:42.673 --> 00:23:45.780
You know Pat, you know the Texas Western story,
903
00:23:45.780 --> 00:23:46.613
right?
904
00:23:46.613 --> 00:23:47.482
Big Daddy, Dave Latin?
905
00:23:47.482 --> 00:23:49.318
There was a Kentucky team, years ago.
906
00:23:49.318 --> 00:23:50.593
'64 in the NCAA,
907
00:23:50.593 --> 00:23:51.623
all these brothers--
Yeah, I know this story.
908
00:23:51.623 --> 00:23:52.456
come in from Texas Western.
909
00:23:52.456 --> 00:23:53.749
And they lay them out.
Yeah, yeah.
910
00:23:53.749 --> 00:23:57.034
And the small forward for the Kentucky team's Pat.
911
00:23:57.034 --> 00:23:58.221
Pat Riley, yeah.
912
00:23:58.221 --> 00:23:59.054
(Dennis laughs)
913
00:23:59.054 --> 00:23:59.887
I remember, I was seeing it in a movie,
914
00:23:59.887 --> 00:24:01.149
and I was, like, (beep), Pat played on this team.
915
00:24:01.149 --> 00:24:02.001
But I remember Pat,
916
00:24:02.001 --> 00:24:04.308
I remember him telling me he played for Adolph Rupp.
917
00:24:04.308 --> 00:24:06.191
Yeah, and he hadn't met pomade, yet.
918
00:24:06.191 --> 00:24:07.024
Yeah, (laughs) yeah.
So he didn't have the sm--
919
00:24:07.024 --> 00:24:07.857
Have the--
he didn't have smooth thing
920
00:24:07.857 --> 00:24:09.168
the pushback, yeah (murmurs)
921
00:24:09.168 --> 00:24:11.771
Yeah, it looked a little like
922
00:24:11.771 --> 00:24:12.618
the Mark Price,
923
00:24:12.618 --> 00:24:13.786 line:15%
or something like that.
Yeah.
924
00:24:13.786 --> 00:24:16.142 line:15%
And, lastly, and then we're lettin' my man rock.
925
00:24:16.142 --> 00:24:19.548 line:15%
@banmalah on Twitter, How is your recovery going?
926
00:24:19.548 --> 00:24:21.830 line:15%
Are there times you feel yourself slipping?
927
00:24:21.830 --> 00:24:23.314 line:15%
We, sort of, have visited that.
928
00:24:23.314 --> 00:24:24.418
Ain't no time to slip.
929
00:24:24.418 --> 00:24:25.810
You a man of God?
930
00:24:25.810 --> 00:24:26.643
I am.
931
00:24:26.643 --> 00:24:27.476
Yeah?
932
00:24:27.476 --> 00:24:28.309
Yeah.
933
00:24:28.309 --> 00:24:29.840
You praying for the help, right?
934
00:24:29.840 --> 00:24:30.673
All the time, that's right.
935
00:24:30.673 --> 00:24:32.898
'Cause, man, you know the program.
936
00:24:32.898 --> 00:24:34.001
I don't know if you're even in the program.
937
00:24:34.001 --> 00:24:35.438
They tell you at some point, you gotta give
938
00:24:35.438 --> 00:24:36.434
it up to something bigger than you.
939
00:24:36.434 --> 00:24:37.267
[Lamar] - Yeah.
940
00:24:37.267 --> 00:24:39.094
Because, man, when you're fighting on your own--
941
00:24:39.094 --> 00:24:40.814
You gotta give yourself up.
942
00:24:40.814 --> 00:24:42.943
Definitely gotta give yourself up.
943
00:24:42.943 --> 00:24:43.776
All right, man.
944
00:24:43.776 --> 00:24:45.078
Well, you feel good, today, right?
945
00:24:45.078 --> 00:24:45.921
I do, bro.
(upbeat music)
946
00:24:45.921 --> 00:24:46.754
It's good to meet you, baby.
947
00:24:46.754 --> 00:24:47.587
Thanks, bro.
948
00:24:47.587 --> 00:24:48.420
I'm happy you're--
Thanks a lot.
949
00:24:48.420 --> 00:24:49.253
happy right now.
Thanks a lot.
950
00:24:49.253 --> 00:24:50.086
God bless.
Thanks.
951
00:24:50.086 --> 00:24:51.626
Big thanks to my guest, Lamar Odom.
952
00:24:51.626 --> 00:24:54.032
His candid and honest book "Darkness to Light" is
953
00:24:54.032 --> 00:24:55.721
available online, in stores, now.
954
00:24:55.721 --> 00:24:57.893
Thanks to Larry for having me, today.
955
00:24:57.893 --> 00:25:01.378
We will see you next time on Larry King Now.
956
00:25:01.378 --> 00:25:04.961
(upbeat music intensifies)